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Dealing with the pressures of Utah Mormonism - last commented 05 February 2013 05:25 PM

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The main thing I have found in religion is "post hoc ergo propter hoc" reasoning, meaning "this happened, then this happened; therefore this caused this"

This not only applies to prayer, which is honestly the stupidest thing I can immagine, but to mormon priesthood blessings, and any religious baptisms. I hate when people tell stories about prayer which involve things which almost definitely would have happened by chance, without prayer. THIS IS TERRIBLE REASONING WHICH ONLY SOLIDIFIES THEIR BELIEFS IN PRAYER!!! I don't get it. Just because 90% of the city I live in is mormon, does NOT make it the SLIGHTEST bit true!!!

There is strength in numbers, not truth.

Tue, 07 Dec 2010 21:39:00 UTC | #559938

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StevenTheSkeptic's Avatar Jump to comment 83 by StevenTheSkeptic

Oh my GOD!!! (pun inteded, lol) We share a very similar story, although I was raised in the heart of Mormonism. Even crazier shit if you ask me, but yeah... I really don't see how anyone in their right mind could believe in mormonism, or god for that matter.

I recently turned 18, and I submitted a letter to the LDS membership records department in Salt Lake City stating that I wish to be taken off their membership records immediately. I can guarantee the social effects of me doing so will be semi-disasterous, but who cares, I don't consider myslef to be a mormon, neither should they.

Congratulations on breaking free as I have done!!!

Tue, 07 Dec 2010 21:34:46 UTC | #559935

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StevenTheSkeptic's Avatar Jump to comment 11 by StevenTheSkeptic

Thank you for all of your comments! I actually can't wait to move away from this place, which I plan to do after I graduate HS. I do watch the south park episode about joseph smith when I feel like just laughing at all the ignorant people around here.

I am still required, by my mother, to attend church, and I believe most of the pressure I feel happens because everyone seeing me at church every sunday (the pressure being that everyone simply assumes I am LDS). To my surprise, I actually prefer this to if I didn't attend. This is simply because once people start noticing that I'm not there, all the crazy, pushy mormons will be the ones bothering me. Although I hate sitting through church, I much prefer that the crazies leave me alone. The marketing skills they learned on their missions don't work on me, and I don't want to hear them.

For the longest time, I would just "go with the flow" during church and church related conversations. Just recently, I decided to stop being a phony and to quit BS-ing myself and everyone around me. At first I naiively took a quite defensive and possibly attacking stance, which I believe was simply caused by being utterly fed up. Lately, however, I've actually started to have conversations in a light, respectable, and simply questioning (not attacking) manner, and ONLY when people start to assume I'm LDS. I really feel like It is working to an extent. I have noticed a lot of people still respect me afterwards, and most actually back off. I still, however, could NEVER see myself living here much longer than the summer after I graduate. I think my new stance and social/conversational tactics will last me just long enough, until I can move away from home.

I'm loving the advice! If anyone has more, keep it coming!

Fri, 19 Nov 2010 22:11:56 UTC | #550147

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