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Go to: How Critical Thinkers Lose Their Faith in God

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bet your not even reading this

Am so, and spotted the grammar mistake.

Thu, 03 May 2012 03:31:18 UTC | #939245

Go to: Darwinian Selection Continues to Influence Human Evolution

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Don't forget, our brains are products of evolution. So if our technology is affecting our continued evolution via our brains, well, it's still evolution working, no?

It may seem like we are moving into stasis by removing evolutionary pressures, but I don't believe it would be a stable state. We are also creating superbugs, pumping the environment full of estrogens, affecting the climate, killing off some species and permanently changing others, etc. We are changing the world, and at some point we may reach a tipping point that may certainly affect at least the less advantaged among us.

I think just saying that modern medicine enables people with all kinds of problem genes to reproduce, and therefore evolution will stop with us, is too narrow a view. I don't think we can control things, ultimately, as much as we think we can.

Wed, 02 May 2012 11:10:53 UTC | #938979

Go to: Darwinian Selection Continues to Influence Human Evolution

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Our environment these days is controlled in a significant amount by money. This makes it still harsh in many ways, and I would think that would provide plenty of pressure for natural selection.

Tue, 01 May 2012 22:57:12 UTC | #938833

Go to: Unbelief in the pews

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Comment 133 by Just me

I'm still reading articles/links and watching the conversation, but your final position is extremely depressing and hopeless - no matter how you shuffle and reshuffle it. Depressing and utterly hopeless. Yes, that obvious fact wouldn't make your position any more or less true.

When I became an atheist, I felt the same way. In fact, I felt that life was meaningless and I would have liked to just die to avoid any more of the pain...

...except that suicide would have caused a lot of pain to my family. And their happiness means something to me. It didn't take me long to realise that this and many other things besides are the meaning my life still has -- even if that meaning is local rather than being tied to some universal god-figure. It had never dawned on me before, how full my life is of meaning, right here, right now.

And after that first rough couple of weeks or so, I am much happier now than I was as a theist.

Why on earth haven't any of you tried to meditate or pray in an attempt to falsify this presence - not a prayer for money, to see an undeniable miracle, or to have god show up at your front door - but an ernest knock and it shall be answered/seek and you will find kind of prayer?

But I did try. Not in an attempt to falsify anything, but because I really wanted that loving relationship with god. And the very last time I tried, do you want to know what happened? I actually got up off the couch and walked over to the wall and hit my head against it. Really. Not too hard, because I didn't really want to injure myself (and anyone who knows what I was trying to do, I'd appreciate it if they'd speak up). But hard enough that I could still feel it a good twenty minutes later.

It was the final one of a lifetime of fruitless attempts at inviting god in. So, can you tell me -- was my experience different from yours because god does not like me? Or was it because my brain is a bit different from yours?

Mon, 30 Apr 2012 02:24:45 UTC | #938270

Go to: Losing Your Religion: Analytic Thinking Can Undermine Belief

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Comment 10 by QuestioningKat

The "Thinker" is clearly more well-known and requires less consideration and examination - perhaps this is similar to people who prefer a licensed image of Cinderella over a generic princess image.

It might depend on the test subjects. When I was young, in the late sixties/early seventies, the Discobolus image was at least as common as The Thinker, and I can see it in my head even now. But it is true, I don't remember seeing it at all in many years, while The Thinker seems to be spreading like a meme.

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 03:12:12 UTC | #937611

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