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Go to: Richard Dawkins and Lawrence Krauss: Something from Nothing, at ANU (Canberra Australia)

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One thing I can't get an answer from theists is how the Heaven thing even works? It isn't very logical to me, to think that you will continue to be yourself and at the same time always be happy for eternity.

What part of us is taken away, for good or for ill, in order to allow you to always be happy? I assume our negative characteristics and even many of our positive desires would have to be nixed, but then at that point. How could that be considered us, because much of what makes us, us is the whole package. Could you imagine if we found away to genetically or medicinally alter humans to ONLY behave exactly like any of the religions say we should? I assume that even the religious would flip out.

Besides you could then ask why god didn't just create us that way in the first place, but this brings up their excuse for our imperfection, that sin is a by-product of free will. Does that mean that we'll cease to have free will in Heaven or that we'll still be sinners? Even if they made the argument that our negative characteristics are tempered and as a result, while we may still feel them, we wouldn't act on them, at that point they'd be saying that we then get to spend eternity doped up.

What kind of entity would need to dope up its followers in order to keep them in check or even just to tolerate them?

Sat, 21 Apr 2012 17:08:41 UTC | #936301

Go to: Jon Stewart Doesn’t Understand How Science Works Even a Little Bit

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What the...?

Hopefully by now he understands that science is NOT based on any faith. His example of "anti-matter" (I assume he meant dark matter) is especially ill-informed. There are LOTS of things we don't about it, but we CAN see it's effects like gravitational lensing of light and study them.

There are NO observable effects of ANY deity within our universe. Which is not proof they don't exist, but is a REALLY good justification for not believing they do.

Wed, 18 Apr 2012 05:47:17 UTC | #935395

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