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Go to: Cleric says polio vaccination 'un-islamic', warns of jihad against docs

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Comment 14 by hellosnackbar :

The atrophy of Mohammedanism is something I would pray for(Inshallah) ;if my brain had been pathologically modified by belief in sky fairies.

Pathologically modified. No better way to put it. Take someone who has been warped from birth by faith and attempt to reason with them on even the semantics of the word belief, and you'll find that there is little distinction between uses on matters of fact and fantasy. For instance, I once had a conversation with someone extremely superstitious; from the Philippines actually. He had his "beliefs" and asked if I believe. I said if it's a matter of belief, then I chose not...he didn't get it, so I elaborated. I asked him if I had a choice to believe and he of course said yes. I asked him if he feels that he has a choice in believing in gravity, and again he said yes. I then said, well the one doesn't require belief, it's always there, go ahead and test it, but the other (in this case it was tree spirits) is not there, will never be there (safe bet), and therefor depends on belief alone. But alas...he still never got it. My point, there has to be some organic, neurological insufficiency that does, or more to the point does not occur while the brain develops at a young age. Perhaps due to stressers; environmental triggers maybe. It's already well known that exposure to traumatic events can have developmental consequences on the brain; if I recall, myelination of the neuronal sheaths, or something to that effect. In any case, I'm utterly baffled, and though never surprised, always dismayed.

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 20:06:43 UTC | #947617

Go to: South Korea surrenders to creationist demands

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Comment 11 by Metamag :

This is why I wasn't so sure about the claim that internet deals with ignorance by default, which even Dan Dennett said recently. How many creationism debunking videos are on youtube in Korean language? Probably zero.

How many christianity debunking videos are on youtube in Korean language? Probably zero.

So who can speak a little Korean? Anybody know the word bullshit?

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 18:08:09 UTC | #945729

Go to: Stop female genital mutilation in the UK! - Avaaz.org petition

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signed sealed and delivered.

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 17:59:51 UTC | #945724

Go to: Stop female genital mutilation in the UK! - Avaaz.org petition

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Comment 23 by alphcat :

Robert Firth comment 4, you wrote: "If this petition were to stop infant and child genital mutilation, I would sign it in a heartbeat. But a petition that ignores 95% of the victims of this barbaric practice is one that I will not sign. First, because it is sexist and morally wrong. Secondly, because it denies or diminishes the suffering of half of humanity. And finally, because it will be almost completely counterproductive: it will only confirm among the practitioners of FGM the disgusting hypocrisy of us Westerners, who condemn them for doing to girls what we routinely do to boys" Whilst I agree with you about male circumsion being wrong, there is a huge difference between the two practices. Female Genital Mutilation involves the removal of the clitoris and more. Often the vagina is sewn up leaving just a small hole for mentrual blood. The only male equivalant I can think of would be having the whole or a huge chunk of the penis removed. It makes enjoyment of sex nigh on impossible, infection likely and childbirth impossible.That is why perhaps the term female genital mutilation has replaced female circumcision. The two are not comparable by any stretch of the imagination.

Here here.

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 17:49:13 UTC | #945723

Go to: Stop female genital mutilation in the UK! - Avaaz.org petition

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Comment 4 by Robert Firth :

If this petition were to stop infant and child genital mutilation, I would sign it in a heartbeat. But a petition that ignores 95% of the victims of this barbaric practice is one that I will not sign. First, because it is sexist and morally wrong. Secondly, because it denies or diminishes the suffering of half of humanity. And finally, because it will be almost completely counterproductive: it will only confirm among the practitioners of FGM the disgusting hypocrisy of us Westerners, who condemn them for doing to girls what we routinely do to boys.

Hmmm, I myself only have so much confidence in the effectiveness of such partitions, but to not at the very least acknowledge your position would confirm that ineffectiveness. Acknowledging its "barbarism" in the west will open up some blind eyes and maybe turn a few east. That can't be all bad...and that's not a question. As for circumcision, everyone knows the origin to the practice, and yes, the motives were equally barbaric. But female vaginal mutilation signifies a greater kind of repression then just preventing the sin of sexual pleasure. After all, males in both the west and the east suffer no discrimination with or without a helmet.

And for the record, anyone obsessing over their foreskin, either the presence, or lack there of, has deeper issues at hand than a forgotten medical procedure performed days after birth. I myself have no problem in the pleasure department and no deep seated suppressed feelings on the issue.

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 17:44:51 UTC | #945721

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