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Thanks for this topic Mr Darcy! It has provided considerable amounts of laughter.

I wouldn't mind a Prayathon:

Just let contestants pray for their medals! An excellent chance also for the different deities to prove their worth.

Tue, 24 Jul 2012 00:24:09 UTC | #949943

Go to: Do we need objective morals?

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I'm with ZenDruid on this one. And as far as I'm concerned the religious can have their 'objective' morality if it makes them feel superior.

Tue, 24 Jul 2012 00:11:32 UTC | #949941

Go to: Q&A: Sam Harris

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Comment 49 by MondayMonday :

I don't know, I fall somewhere in the middle on this topic in general. At one extreme I think you have people saying that religion has absolutely nothing to do with global conflicts, and I don't think that's correct - I think it's a factor among many factors. At the other extreme I think you have people basically using religion as an easy way to oversimplify a complex situation and absolve their side of any responsibility - sort of the equivalent of just saying "Look, they're just f-ing nuts who have no sense, so clearly the only problem here is that they're insane."

Exactly.

Sat, 02 Jun 2012 11:13:59 UTC | #945178

Go to: Q&A: Sam Harris

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Comment 24 by kantastisk :

If only that - Harris openly flirts with the idea of reincarnation. I remember my jaw dropping when I read this passage in The End of Faith, p. 41:

There also seems to be a body of data attesting to the reality of psychic phenomena, much of which has been ignored by mainstream science

accompanied by these references:

See, e.g., D. Radin, The Conscious Universe: The Scientific Truth of Psychic Phenomena (New York: HarperCollins, 1997), R. Sheldrake, The Sense of Being Stared At: And Other Aspects of the Extended Mind (New York: Crown, 2003), and R. S. Bobrow, "Paranormal Phenomena in the Medical Literature Sufficient Smoke to Warrant a Search for Fire," Medical Hypotheses 60 (2003): 864-68. There may even be some credible evidence for reincarnation. See I. Stevenson, Twenty Cases Suggestive of Reincarnation (Charlottesville: Univ. Press of Virginia, 1974), Unlearned Language: New Studies in Xenoglossy (Charlottesville: Univ. Press of Virginia, 1984), and Where Reincarnation and Biology Intersect (Westport, Conn.: Praeger, 1997).

Just unbelievable. There's another one of those jaw-droppers after his speech at Beyond Belief in 2006 (which is online at thesciencenetwork.com) where he is questioned about reincarnation specifically - I forget the exact moment, but anyone interested should look there.

For some time I suspected Harris of being a very clever Buddhist, hitching a ride on the atheist movement. It's just that he talks so much delicious sense 99,9 % of the time.

Mindboggling

Thu, 31 May 2012 14:25:14 UTC | #944754

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Comment 18 by wald0h :

I'm not saying Israel has no fault, and that they don't make bad decisions. Of course they do. The whole thing just seems like one giant modern holy war. All I am really trying to say is that one side purposely uses their civilian friends and families as human shields, and one doesn't. For me, an outsider looking in, I really don't care if their ancestors were kicked out of their land, poor education, politics, and their sad economic situation makes them desperate or willing to fight. There's no excuse for human shields. They may find solace or reasoning for this tactic in their twisted religion, but i'm not going to sympathize. To me there is a clear right and wrong answer on this particular strategy.

Hey WaldOh, I would call myself an outsider on this issue too. So I don't feel the need to establish one side as the good guys and the other as the bad.

But the moral divide you see between the two doesn't seem so grand to me. The use of human shields is outright evil and cowardly. But that doesn't make the side that doesn't respect a human shield a lot better. Collateral damage isn't a moral highground. To me both sides come out pretty shady.

On another note: When two sides in a conflict are obviously in the wrong. An argument like 'yes, but they are even more wrong than we are' sounds futile to me.

Wed, 30 May 2012 22:57:03 UTC | #944652

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