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Go to: Chicago area event, Sean Faircloth, author of Attack of the Theocrats

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  • emc
  • Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:22:21 UTC | #926472

    Go to: Calling all foxhole atheists – fill out THIS version of the Spiritual Fitness test.

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    I also said I'd be interested in the six-month followup. I'll be interested to see what they're looking for.

    While I criticized the test's assumptions, I do give the organization credit for trying. This can't be the easiest kind of data to gather, touching as it does on vague concepts and leaning on wishy-washy words. One set of questions had a preface that showed how determined the test makers were to get useful information: they specified "spiritual" as specifically supernatural, not merely metaphorical or feel-good. See? They really are trying.

    Consider the problems people have thinking outside the religion box. Somebody will ask, "So who is the atheist pope? What is the atheist bible?" They're trying to understand something that has no analog in their worldview, but they must start somewhere.

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  • Sat, 03 Sep 2011 01:45:06 UTC | #866788

    Go to: Calling all foxhole atheists – fill out THIS version of the Spiritual Fitness test.

    pain.strumpet's Avatar Jump to comment 7 by pain.strumpet

    The main problem I encountered was that I couldn't figure out how to honestly answer some questions. What they ask is not necessarily what they meant to ask, I think. Giving either a "strongly agree" or "strongly disagree" answer to a given question would make some inferences easy to make.

    Example: they asked if I had a core of beliefs, ethics, or values that give me a sense of purpose. My answer to this is "strongly disagree," because I don't think that my beliefs/ethics/values (as those are usually meant in such contexts) contribute to my sense of purpose. But does saying "disagree" imply that I don't have beliefs/ethics/values? Don't have a sense of purpose? Both? All I mean is that the two are not connected.

    In the health section, they ask about whether my health has affected how I work, live, socialize, etc. My health is good, so I've had no detrimental effects. But, in the last week (the time frame they asked about), I went to a bdsm club for a severe beating. Thus, I had "extreme pain" in the last week, but not that interfered with my activities. How do I honestly answer them?

    I much prefer essay questions, though I know essays render data collection difficult or impossible.

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  • Fri, 02 Sep 2011 06:42:48 UTC | #866552

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