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tadmjones's Avatar Jump to comment 29 by tadmjones

in reply to canadian right the starting point of morality should be the idea that the set of principles are based on the facts of man's existence. Man is certain type of being or entity and has certain characteristics. One of the most fundamental is that we exist as seperate entities with ultimately our own individual hapiness as the goal of a life lived morally.

Fri, 27 Jul 2012 17:37:35 UTC | #950168

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Morality is something all humans need , because of the fact that humans are capable of error. To what degree this is understood or practised obviously varies. True or objective morality means a set of rationally derived principles to help guide one's actions.

Fri, 27 Jul 2012 17:32:48 UTC | #950167

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I didnt give two definitions of objective, i stated objectivity means reality is independent of consciousness and then restated it

Thu, 26 Jul 2012 16:29:06 UTC | #950110

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In reply to comment 19 j gibbons You seem to be comparing apples and oranges, the physical act of punching some does illustrate though what I meant. My wishes or desires about experiencing pain will have no effect on the outcome.The experience of pain is an aspect of 'objective' reality, things hurt even if we dont want them to. But the premises of your statement seems to be that there is no difference between one concrete act and the complex abstraction of a morality qua morality.

Thu, 26 Jul 2012 14:36:43 UTC | #950103

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In philosophic terms objective means independent of consciousness, meaning a thing is what it is regardless of subjective judgements. Wishing or wanting some'thing' to be a certain way has no bearing on what way the thing is. Rational thinking tells us humans are not infallible, therefore we must develope principles of action to guide our choices. Morality should be objective, it should based on reality and not guided by whim or wish. Man is a certain type of being that must act to survive. Morality is the guide to measure choices of action to help insure proper choices are being made. Good should be defined as those actions that further man's life and ultimately happiness. Ayn Rand's philosophy of Objectivism describes such rational morality. y'all shoud give it a good look see, do not rely on the opinions of others read her and decide refute her if you can.

Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:04:48 UTC | #950073

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