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Go to: The atheist who tried to steal Christmas

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"Never mind, kiddies, that it was the Judeo-Christian tradition (not Cinderella) that gave rise to the very science Dawkins occasionally practices and the civilization from which he draws most of his moral and intellectual sensibilities."

Now if I remember from university correctly the origins of much of our intellectual tradition for example the application of empirical evidence to test a hypothesis were pre-Christian Greeks? I think I would also describe the judeo- Christian view of science as rather close minded - as an example think of those enlightened intellectuals giants who put Gallileo on trial.

As for morals well I could write a book on that point but lets just cover the main highlights - crusades against muslims or pagans, sale of indulgances to guarantee a place in heavan, heresey and witchcraft trials galore and of course a punishment book containing such treats as burning at the stake and hanging etc etc. So, I think it's safe to say that if RD draws moral and intellectual sensibilities from civilisation their probably not the ones influenced by the Judeo-Christian tradition!

Tue, 27 Dec 2011 22:23:27 UTC | #903117

Go to: God Sent Christopher Hitchens to Hell Because He Loved Him

andy walker's Avatar Jump to comment 208 by andy walker

I agree.

Hitch was brilliant, erudite and will be missed. But he was extremely critical and blunt about Falwell and others after their deaths. To complain about Christians making harsh comments about hitch after his death is a bit hypocritical.

People like Fischer are entitled to give an honest opinion . They are wrong but the only way to show that is to hear them out and disagree on the merits of their argument.

Comment 23 by IndyHoosier :

I don't have a problem with this guy saying what he thinks. When Falwell died, Hitch went on the cable shows and said exactly what he thought about that charlatan windbag. I thought that was a good thing. Having Christians come out and espouse their feelings is beneficial. It is much better having their opinions documented and out in the open so that one can see, listen, and judge.

Sat, 24 Dec 2011 23:14:09 UTC | #902525

Go to: Bible rewritten to make it ‘easier to follow’

andy walker's Avatar Jump to comment 23 by andy walker

A bear called nigel priceless!

Sat, 24 Dec 2011 22:46:23 UTC | #902522

Go to: David Cameron says the UK is a Christian country

andy walker's Avatar Jump to comment 90 by andy walker

Well put!! Still at least we can be sure with such inconsistant thinking and totally contradictory answers a few weeks apart our PM is ideally suited for his chosen prfofession.

Comment 17 by Paula Kirby :

"But what I am saying is that the Bible has helped to give Britain a set of values and morals which make Britain what it is today." Really, Mr Cameron? That's strange. It seems like only a few weeks ago that you weren't all that impressed with "the values and morals which make Britain what it is today" and you were busy telling us how "broken" British society was(http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/15/david-cameron-riots-broken-society

So which is it? Do our values and morals come from Christianity, or are our values and morals inadequate? And remember: you can't claim both that our morals and values are broken because we're no longer Christian enough and that Britain is still a Christian country with Christian values.

Sat, 24 Dec 2011 22:43:06 UTC | #902521

Go to: Is the UK a Christian country?

andy walker's Avatar Jump to comment 7 by andy walker

Certainly less devout Christians than many countries, an educated guess would be somewhere around 50-60% are atheists or extremely appathetic. However, there is still a significant (and unwelcome) influence held by the church of England partcicular in some sections of society. But, overall I'd say no not a Christian country.

Sat, 24 Dec 2011 22:22:05 UTC | #902518

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