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Go to: Major Threat to Religion? Clergy People Coming Out as Atheists

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It really depends on how widespread this becomes as to whether it makes a dent in the credibility of religion. It is too soon to tell. We have members of The Clergy Project to give us hope, but then on the other end of the spectrum, we have preachers advocating for locking gay people in pens. We are a long way away from being able to say that it is common for clergy to be atheists.

The most devout of the faithful will dig their heels in and hold on to their god(s) with iron fists, and things will get much worse before they get better. They'll call these clergy in The Clergy Project atheists who infiltrated the churches in order to bring Christianity down before they believe they've been listening to a bona fide Christian who, somewhere along the way, realized that what (s)he was preaching all those years is untrue.

Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:58:51 UTC | #947274

Go to: So what's the goal with theism?

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The fact that you "unapologetically teach my children Christianity" because "it is the truth after all"

pretty much loses you all credibility on a site like this one. It is not "the truth." You are indoctrinated, and you are indoctrinating your own children and would probably do it to ours as well if you got half the chance.

The fact that you think it is "the truth" speaks volumes. You only believe that because of where you were born. If you had been born in India, you'd be Hindu. Iran or Afghanistan-Muslim. China-Buddhist. So on and so forth. You believe what you believe simply because of where you were born. It is not "the truth." The fact that you are so arrogant as to say that your version of the imaginary friend is better than all others and that's that speaks VOLUMES. Ignorance and arrogance are not virtues, but you have displayed plenty of them here.

Sun, 27 May 2012 11:37:26 UTC | #943809

Go to: How the Web is killing faith

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Comment 25 by All About Meme :

Comment 22 by Shannon1981

It does no good, but when you are so marginalized in the rest of wider society, you search out a haven of people like yourself.

This is true for me. Instead of fighting the good fight on religious websites, as Metamag suggests (and I'm not disputing his point, because it is well-taken), it's nice to hang out and occasionally enjoy some comraderie in a place where like-minded folks can be found.

It's lonely in America for outspoken atheists, and I'm reluctant to spend the precious time I do have making myself feel even lonelier by posting on religious websites.

Same here. I do it on the Huffington Post, where they allow even the dumbest people to troll. For instance, Gay Voices will be run over with homophobes. A Richard Dawkins article will be run over with Evangelicals. I can only do it for so long though. That level of ignorance raises blood pressure and kills brain cells. Then I have to retreat back here to recover.

Sat, 26 May 2012 23:11:04 UTC | #943723

Go to: How the Web is killing faith

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Comment 18 by Metamag :

Comment 17 by esuther :

Not being able to remain silent (a common writer’s weakness) I confront some woo peddler or other almost every day, and my comment often elicits an entire dispute. Even if it begins in a civil way, which is about half the time, the discussion soon becomes soured by the believer’s sense of outrage.

LOL, I do this all the time on completely unrelated gaming forums(in off-topic subforums or if someone brings something up in other subforums) and such. Glad to see I'm not the only one.

The worst thing atheists can do online is exclusively comment on atheist blogs, websites and youtube channels. Many atheists don't even realize how pointless this virtual ghettoization is. The worst example being PZ Myers' blog with hundreds of comments, just imagine if that effort was put on mainstream websites and articles.

Basic common sense.

The same can be said for any minority. I belong to 5 minorities, and they all tend to do this. Lesbians hang out on lesbian sites, AA folks hang out on sites for people of color, gender variant people hang out on trans boards, et al, you get the picture. It does no good, but when you are so marginalized in the rest of wider society, you search out a haven of people like yourself.

P.S. esuther, I am a writer as well. Currently writing a book on how I became an atheist.

Sat, 26 May 2012 20:33:04 UTC | #943693

Go to: How the Web is killing faith

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Comment 1 by reckoner :

Comments section is pretty entertaining. It's so funny to see how night-and-day the atheist and crazy people comments are, just from a clarity and presentation standpoint. Like small children talking to adults. Unreal.

Arguing with fundies online runs your blood pressure up. Remember to take regular breaks.

Sat, 26 May 2012 20:14:34 UTC | #943688

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