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Dawkins' reality check for children is that we will always live in a world where the strong dominate and exploit the weak. We are here only to pass on our genes and then become worm food. In the meantime, we suffer, grow old and lose all our loved ones in death without any hope of seeing them again. I don't think many children will find this 'reality' at all magical.

Dawkins' pet theory of evolution is full of assumptions and guesswork. (Just try asking him how sexual reproduction could ever have evolved, for instance.) He ignores the powerful evidence from cosmology that the universe is configured with extraordinary precision to enable life. He conveniently ignores the fact that the Bible contains numerous prophecies that have been fulfilled with great accuracy, indicating divine authorship. He also ignores 'supernatural' phenomena that defy scientific explanation or investigation but give evidence of an intelligent spirit realm. And he ignores the transformative power of God's Word to change people's lives for the better.

If you want your children to believe that life has no purpose but survival, and its okay to belittle those who believe in God, get them to read Dawkins' book. Alternately, if you want your children to understand why we are here, why we should treat others with love, and how suffering and death will be removed to make life everlastingly meaningful and joyful, get them to read the Bible.

Sat, 01 Oct 2011 11:39:09 UTC | #876901

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Phoenix*'s Avatar Jump to comment 108 by Phoenix*

CFM, just to clarify, God gave His backing to the war against the Canaanites but He long ago stopped using human agents in such a way. As the scriptures I cited in Matthew and Romans make clear, nobody engaging in war since the time of Christ can possibly claim to have God's backing, no matter how wicked their foe.

Mon, 02 May 2011 21:50:52 UTC | #622247

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Judges 11:39

Sorry, here's the link again. I should have checked it but got distracted watching the snooker...

Mon, 02 May 2011 21:34:52 UTC | #622241

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Phoenix*'s Avatar Jump to comment 99 by Phoenix*

How can even a fundie like you possibly twist this into "she was sent to serve at the tabernacle for the rest of her life"? Blind faith, which can contort any plain statement, and permits the religious to cling to unreality.

Judges 11:39

If you follow the link you will find 15 different Bible translations of that verse. The one you cite - New Living Translation - is the only one that says 'she died'. Furthermore, if you read the commentaries below that verse and verse 40 you will understand why it is reasonable to conclude that Jephthah's daughter could not have been literally sacrificed as 'a burnt offering'.

Since atheists are often keen to criticise theists for their literal interpretation of the Bible it would be unfair of you to adopt the same tactic when it suits, wouldn't you agree? We need to read other parts of the Bible to properly understand ambiguous passages. In this case, we should specifically consider the law condemning human sacrifice that Jephthah was bound by.

'Never give your children as sacrifices to the god Molech [by burning them alive]. If you do, you are dishonoring the name of your God. I am the LORD.' - Leviticus 18:21

'You must never sacrifice your sons or daughters by burning them alive...' - Deuteronomy 18:10

'They have built pagan shrines at Topheth, the garbage dump in the valley of Ben-Hinnom, and there they burn their sons and daughters in the fire. I have never commanded such a horrible deed; it never even crossed my mind to command such a thing!' - Jeremiah 7:31

If you ignore these verses and persist in your prejudice that God sanctions child sacrifice are you yourself not twisting the facts and clinging to your own 'unreality'?

Mon, 02 May 2011 18:40:00 UTC | #622136

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How do people know that the commands they are acting upon really came from (your) god? How can you discern whether people really followed gods commands or just claimed they did? Especially as you are so adamant that we cannot judge deeds commanded by your god by "normal" ethical standards? To ask a very specific question: How do you know that Hitler and Goebbels and the men they commanded did not act in your gods name?


I touched on your questions in my post above. If someone advocates killing (as the Nazis did) they are not acting on behalf of God.

Ultimately, an understanding of God's will can only come from His word, the Bible. And a belief in God's will can only come from a study of the Bible to determine if it is reliable and trustworthy. Personally, I am convinced that it is.

Mon, 02 May 2011 15:05:13 UTC | #622043

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