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Thank you, Heintje! I've been involved in this movement for 12 years (and I got involved as a student myself!), so I've seen firsthand, repeatedly, how vital the student movement is and how much of an impact these conferences can have. Thanks for your support!

Wed, 06 Jun 2012 20:06:37 UTC | #945947

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Your comment about crying in this context made me snort! Question: Did you read the NPR piece? Do you think that Coyne's perspective is the truth, and the people interviewed for the NPR article are liars or incorrect? Is Blasphemy Day evidence that the organization is accommodationist? The opposite, I'd think.

I stand by my original comment. I think that Coyne took a chunk of information and drew a conclusion, but that only reflects one face of the whole. I find it frustrating that you feel so certain that you're correct, when your perspective is so limited. I feel similarly about some of the comments made in the NPR article by people who drew the opposite conclusion and think that CFI is now being run by new atheists.

But back to the matter at hand. The campus groups are loosely affiliated and can be as in-your-face or accommodationist as they want. :) We don't control them. Take a look at the list for an idea:

If you donate, the money goes right to travel grants to bring more students to the conference. I hope you find it a worthwhile cause.

Tue, 29 May 2012 22:39:57 UTC | #944327

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I would call mordacious1's comment hilarious if it weren't so sad. In the last few years, I've seen CFI be criticized for not being strident enough, for being too "accommodationist," because some of our staffers criticized some of the tactics of "New Atheists" in blog posts (as the WEIT post shows). Simultaneously, and that's why it's hilarious and sad, I've seen CFI be criticized as too strident and too atheist, taken over by "new atheists," "neo-atheists," and "atheist fundamentalists," as even Kurtz said in this article:

CFI supporting and promoting Blasphemy Day International is far from accommodationism.

Schrodinger's CFI? The blog lens through which you look determines your current and future attitude about a large multifaceted organization, even in the face of opposing information, and determines whether or not you help students attend a leadership conference? That seems irrational and makes me sad, because the student movement is crucial, and I thought we were more reasonable than that.

Debbie Goddard, CFI On Campus Coordinator

Tue, 29 May 2012 15:59:43 UTC | #944249

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Comment 5 by MBDowd :

I wouldn't at all be surprised if Paul Kurtz was the anonymous donor and now he (rightly) feels slighted by the recent anti-religious turn of CFI, promoting Blasphemy Day and such. At least this is my wife Connie Barlow's hypothesis and, assuming Paul is independently wealthy (I don't know), it makes sense to me too.

Kurtz-as-anonymous-donor is an interesting idea, but the fact sheet linked above says that Tom Flynn and Ron Lindsay tried to contact the person several times and asked Dr. Kurtz to do the same. The attempts included mailing a letter. So, improbable that it's Dr. Kurtz.

Sun, 06 Jun 2010 00:07:14 UTC | #476885

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