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to Phil: Are their two of you on this blog?

Phil 1 "The God of the Bible is as real today as he was back then and before so with reason."

Phil 2 "The important thing to remember is assumptions should be clarified and not promoted as fact."

Mon, 04 Dec 2006 01:58:00 UTC | #9745

Go to: The God of the Bible is No Delusion!

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Interesting thing about Newton. I seem to remember reading somewhere that he took up a good deal of 'crackpot' things like alchemy in his old age.
Even if Newton, Einstein, etc. DID believe in a creator so what?

Most of us atheists like to believe that believers are stupid. While it may be flattering to think so it is nearly as dishonest as what THEY are doing.

People of ALL calibre of intellect can come to dumb conclusions if they want to bad enough.

Take for example the dinosaurian origin of birds theory. On the surface it seems to make sense. But if you look into this whole deplorable situation more carefully, as I did about a year ago, you find problems. (The best candidate for bird ancestors was most likely an arboreal archosaur NOT a terrestrial dinosaur.)

So why are so many dinosaur paleontologists so hot for birds to be dinosaur descendants? Because these are guys who have devoted their lives to dinosaurs. AND the dinosaur to bird theory tells them EXACTLY what they want to hear! That dinosaurs are still alive.

Likewise the story of creation tells creationists exactly what THEY want to here. That they didn't come from apes, that they are going to live forever, and that they are more important than they actually are.

Mon, 04 Dec 2006 00:33:00 UTC | #9743

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You better believe they'll teach that claptrap!
(if given the chance)
You'd almost think they were a different species the way they think.

Sun, 03 Dec 2006 22:07:00 UTC | #9739

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to Billy-

Does all this imply that Mary may have originally been made a virgin to compete with Artemis? It would make sense. Perhaps their was some assimilation. If so then perhaps Mary shares some characteristics with Artemis. And could THAT have something to do with the assumption of Mary thing? After all, weren't greek gods known for flying around like Superman?

to Shaunyboy-

If I'm not mistaken you acknowledged microevolution (moth populations changing color etc.)somewhere at the start of this debate and I explained that macroevolution was just the logical result of microevolution going on for hundreds of millions of years. It is unfortunate, for both of us, that none of us can live long enough to see any of the 'major' changes happening. I personally would be thrilled to be able to look say a hundred million years into the future and see what all changes have occured!

If you choose to call such logical extrapolation 'faith' then I can't stop you.

People have ALWAYS had a problem with evolution and it really has nothing to do with God. Their are plenty of people who believe in God AND evolution. (my mother and sisters for example)

The REAL problem is those repulsive apes! Nobody want's to claim kin with them and who can really blame them? BUT that is no reason for people to invest HUGE amounts of time and resources on things like creation 'science'. As if reality could actually be changed if enough people denied what is self evident to anyone who has seen an ape in a zoo.

Us people of reason are confronted only with narcissism.

Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:59:00 UTC | #9734

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You can tell them that evolution is not random until your blue in the face. It simply will NOT phase them. They either do not understand the mechanism OR they don't want to. Possibly a combination. If misunderstanding an idea makes the IDEA sound dumb and they WANT the idea to sound dumb then their is simply no bringing them around.

Sun, 03 Dec 2006 03:12:00 UTC | #9673

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