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Go to: The Neanderthal Debate

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Did Neanderthals have a soul?

Sun, 04 May 2008 00:27:00 UTC | #166039

Go to: Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

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bad words belong to the mouth it pops up

I think herein lies a clue. Does anyone recognise this expression?

Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:34:00 UTC | #163266

Go to: Lying for Jesus?

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Maybe we should fight fire with fire.

Remnant said:

I don't have enough faith to be an atheist.

Well try harder. Stop hardening your heart to random mutation and natural selection and believe. Open your heart to transitional forms and fossils. Love those one-celled blobs of protoplasm. Without them, you'd be nothing. And don't demean the dinosaur. He died so that mammals could rule. And next time you see a chimp, hug him. He's your cuz. And most of, read the holy book:
It is interesting to contemplate an entangled bank, clothed with many plants of many kinds, with birds singing on the bushes, with various insects flitting about, and with worms crawling through the damp earth, and to reflect that these elaborately constructed forms, so different from each other, and dependent on each other in so complex a manner, have all been produced by laws acting around us. These laws, taken in the largest sense, being Growth with Reproduction; inheritance which is almost implied by reproduction; Variability from the indirect and direct action of the external conditions of life, and from use and disuse; a Ratio of Increase so high as to lead to a Struggle for Life, and as a consequence to Natural Selection, entailing Divergence of Character and the Extinction of less-improved forms. Thus, from the war of nature, from famine and death, the most exalted object which we are capable of conceiving, namely, the production of the higher animals, directly follows. There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; and that, whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved.

Charles Darwin "The Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection"

His revelations shine a light over nature for all to see. Come in from the dark and let it shine on you - one of evolutions most wonderful creations, a very brainy toolmaker who can have philosophical discussions over the internet. Come on over to the bright side. You'll still be special. No other animal thought of evolution or rock 'n' roll. Think about it. No more boring church serves. No more boring Christians. You can drink, masturbate and fornicate with divorcees and Darwin will not punish you.

Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:41:00 UTC | #159969

Go to: Lying for Jesus?

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Irate atheist points out:

Try having that metaphorical faith gun pointed at your girlfriend/boyfriends head - by their parents - and having to make a 'choice'. Even worse than having it pointed at your own head, I would contend.

You're right, I hadn't thought of that. Possibly because I didn't raise my children with any faith. I would have thought, though, that if you didn't believe yourself, then you wouldn't feel you were risking your children's (or partner's)eternal life. You would only worry surely if you doubted your atheism (an agnostic atheist?).

Edit. Sorry, for some reason I thought you said "children". It's late and I'm going to bed.

Thu, 24 Apr 2008 05:25:00 UTC | #159210

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It does not prove that the movement of subatomic particles is uncaused. It only describes our inability to predict the speed and location of subatomic particles at any one time. The inability to predict the speed or location of a subatomic particle does not mean that that their movement is uncaused.

Scott Bidstrup's symptoms of the religious mind virus (I haven't read it closely yet) lists "(5) The dissociation of the ideas in the mind of the believer from the reality he sees all around him." Looking at the above quote, you can see how the ideas in this mind and reality are not on first-name terms. And all attempts to encourage a friendship have utterly failed. Reality is his gun to the head. It's telling him that "one day you will die".

Thu, 24 Apr 2008 05:13:00 UTC | #159203

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