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Go to: The Gays Are Winning – And the Religious Right is Losing: What Nontheists Can Learn from the Success of the Homosexual Rights Movement

Eshto's Avatar Jump to comment 9 by Eshto

@Stonyground: "gays and other sexual deviants"

Um... "deviants"? Might want to rethink that. I had harsher word for you, but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you're just ignorant and meant no offense.

Also, the idea that atheists suffer more bigotry than LGBT people is patently absurd. There are no laws that single out atheists for exclusion or discrimination. And atheist teens aren't killing themselves over it. You've gotten a few polls that say atheists would be less likely to be voted for if they ran for president. So atheists are socially unpopular. Get over it. It doesn't come anywhere near to what gay and transgender people have to deal with. Not even close.

I agree religion is no friend to gays and I make this point all the time. But the atheist movement isn't 100% aligned with us either. Atheists are better, on average, but there is still an awful lot of ignorance out there. To make this really simple, I'd rather ally with a sympathetic, gay-affirming Christian than hang out with an atheist who describes me as a "sexual deviant". In the end, gays are each others' best allies.

Fri, 24 Dec 2010 21:23:11 UTC | #568569

Go to: Colbert Report - Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Eshto's Avatar Jump to comment 26 by Eshto

Some of you clearly do not understand Stephen Colbert's routine.

Like this comment:

Blockquote If Colbert was using "satire," he missed the mark, for he threw nothing but standard fundamentalist lines at Ayaan. If he had said something like "You should convert to christianity; we don't abuse women, just young boys," that would have been satire. Or when he said "Jesus, number 1," if he had then added "well... number 2... or... uh... three in one... or one in three...?" the satire would have come through. Or if he had added to his statement: "It's a christian nation, founded by christians, for christians...." a punchline like " avoid paying taxes" we would get the satire. Blockquote

You totally miss the point of what Colbert is doing. He's playing a Bill O'Reilly-like character. If he took obvious shots at Christianity like you suggest, then he would be breaking that character.

As for Ali, her story is incredibly interesting, and I have a lot of respect for her, but her alignment with right wing politics and her schilling for Christianity make me VERY uncomfortable.

Sun, 06 Jun 2010 06:49:04 UTC | #476969

Go to: Texas Conservatives Win Curriculum Change

Eshto's Avatar Jump to comment 16 by Eshto

JC Samuelson is right, the remarks made by bethe123 sound very ignorant.

For one thing, the reason people of color have to actively fight to put ethnic minorities into textbooks is because historically, they are underrepresented, and the dominant white race has been historically overrepresented.

Anyone who knows the slightest thing about American history and has just the most basic level of social awareness realizes this. And this idea of "color blindness" is an overly idealistic and simplistic pipe dream. We don't live in a color blind society and we never have. Pretending that the races are equal does not do anything to fix social injustice. All it does is whitewash it. You can't just sweep centuries of racism under the rug and pretend it doesn't exist.

And if you can't personally think of Latinos who have made lasting contributions to society, then maybe, just maybe, that's a gap in your knowledge you should work on filling. Oh, and you might want to consider that it is completely absurd to expect historically oppressed groups to make as many scientific contributions that would require, among other things, equal access to education and technology? Which racial minorities have not had in the United States. Gee, why aren't any of those poor immigrant Latino farm workers making any lasting contributions to physics? <FACEPALM>

There is a cure for ignorance. It is education.

Updated: Sat, 15 May 2010 03:35:47 UTC | #470157

Go to: Undermining the faith

Eshto's Avatar Jump to comment 69 by Eshto

I do speak out when 'feminity' or 'gay' is used as a synonyme for stupid or weak or what ever degrading. However, I don't see an issue here right now and if I will suddenly, you can count on me to speak out again.
It only works the way it does on RCC because it itself chooses to take any hints on feminity or gay culture as severe offence. I say then let's hand some more to them and let them choke on their own bigotry.

Yes I agree with this. I am also an oustpoken critic of sexism, homophobia, transphobia, etc. I don't have any problem whatsoever with men in drag or transsexuals or transvestites, or really anything anybody is doing as long as it isn't hurting anyone. I know people who are professional drag queens, and I have friends who are transgender.

But the joke about priests only works because the Catholic Church pushes rigid gender roles and heterosexuality to the exclusion of all other orientations and consensual relationships. By making fun of the "men in dresses", I am really only making fun of their own idiotic gender norms, which they are constantly imposing on other people.

And you can see the hypocrisy when, for example, they oppose legislation that would protect transgender folks from job or housing discrimination. The Catholic church thinks it's a sin when a biological male wears a dress. Unless they do it.

Mon, 03 May 2010 18:03:00 UTC | #465380

Go to: Undermining the faith

Eshto's Avatar Jump to comment 14 by Eshto

Speaking as a godless homosexual here, I wouldn't make fun of the virgins in dresses if they didn't go around making proclamations about what is "normal" in terms of sex, gender and relationships. They are constantly saying I am depraved and sinful (or "objectively disordered" as Ratzinger puts it) and fighting against my rights. Virgin men in dresses and child rapists telling me there is something wrong with my sexuality...

Mon, 03 May 2010 03:45:00 UTC | #465162

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