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Go to: The godless guru

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In Comment #11104, Tom says:

'However, by suggesting that ... (the Bible) ... has any literary value undermines the value of ... (RD's) ... otherwise excellent opinions.'

But if RD, or anyone else, thinks that the Bible, or parts of it, have literary merit, then is there are any real harm in saying so?

In fact, it may even help the rationalist cause. I suspect that what some believers, genuinely and sincerely, respond to in the Bible is its literary merit, but they don't think clearly about it and mistakenly suppose that they're reponding to God's revealed word.

Sun, 03 Dec 2006 07:05:00 UTC | #9688

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How pleasant! An example of good journalism.

You might, possibly, quibble in one or two places, but surely it's a pretty fair statement of RD's position.

It's not strikingly pro- or anti-, and the implied message seems to be: If you're interested in this kind of thing, then read TGD and judge for yourself.

Sun, 03 Dec 2006 04:11:00 UTC | #9675

Go to: O Come All Ye Unfaithful

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How these people expose themselves!

Ignore the arguments ... ignore the evidence ... instead, just go for the person who's putting across these ideas which make you uncomfortable.

Sun, 03 Dec 2006 02:03:00 UTC | #9670

Go to: Census called into question as new Ipsos MORI poll estimates 17 million Humanist Brits

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It would be interesting to see the results of a poll to measure such matters as whether people believe in a personal God (as opposed to an impersonal force), and, if they believe in a personal God, whether they believe that s/he intervenes in human affairs.

Some time ago, I read what was claimed to be the results of a poll which seemed to say that less than 30% of the UK population believed in a God who actively intervenes in human affairs.

I don't know any more about the poll, or how reliable it was, but I was surprised at what seemed to me to be the low figure. For it implies, of course, that an even smaller proportion of them would be Christians, in the traditional sense.

Is any more information available anywhere?

Sat, 02 Dec 2006 01:14:00 UTC | #9615

Go to: Our Teapot, which art in heaven

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As Tom Mitchell says (Comment #10054)

There's an unhelpful tendency in atheist circles to go into laager and label everyone outside the wagons stupid or ignorant or both

Indeed, but what is so noticeable is the generally appalling quality of the negative reviews of TGD, of which this latest is an example. (There have been certain rare exceptions of course)

So much so, that, being a suspicious person, I have done my own web searches, in case those who run this web site are deliberately ignoring well argued negative reviews and failing to post them here. All I've succeeded in doing is to find more of the same.

As to why this should be, I can only guess. Is it that editors feel that picking a reviewer who is absolutely and bitterly opposed to RD will generate more interesting journalism? If that's the idea, then there's plenty of evidence on this web site that they're wrong! Why haven't people like Richard Holloway, or John Spong, or Richard Harries (to name three bishops or ex-bishops) reviewed TGD? Weren't they invited? Did they refuse? Are they keeping their powder dry? Or what?

I've surprised myself, because I'm now yearning for a review which contains a dispassionate, scholarly critique of the central thesis of TGD - the one set out in chapters 3 and 4.

Mon, 27 Nov 2006 04:26:00 UTC | #9316

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