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Go to: Why Dawkins disappoints

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"Even Christopher Hitchens, it is generally conceded (even by atheists), lost his encounter with Craig on points."

What a crock of shit! Hitchens beat Craig into the ground.

Wed, 25 May 2011 00:40:04 UTC | #630522

Go to: [Update-YouTube] The Big Questions - Series 4 - Is the Bible Still Relevant?

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I can't believe how eager they were to shame Dawkins for calling the authors of the Biblical texts "ignorant", especially Stavrakopoulou who somehow turned that into a snide comment on the quality of the writing rather than its content which itself demonstrates their ignorance on things both great and small. Oh well. The whole program was rather maddening, especially the ridiculous comments from the sidelines by the smug "God is Love" Christians who were quite obviously taking their own daft cultish views and then attributing them to characters in the Bible.

The only reason this is a big question at all is because so many people have been brainwashed to think it is. On the whole, the Bible is irrelevant in nearly every way except as an artifact of history. Cultures around the world would get on just fine without it; its loss of status would hardly be felt at all after two or three generations.

Sun, 08 May 2011 18:07:01 UTC | #624624

Go to: Lawrence Krauss debates William Craig

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One of the last questions asked of Krauss by an audience member (time 02:23:15) is right out of an old 1986 book titled The New Atheism and the Erosion of Freedom by Robert Morley. After watching this debate, the question caught my eye in one of the 5-star reviews on for that book:

Morey spends 30 pages on the logical errors of unbelief, outlining 13 of the most common ones. For example, #8 points out how atheists build their position on self-refuting propositions like: "There are no absolutes" (this is an absolute statement that refutes itself), "There is no truth" (except the one just given?), "Only empirically verifiable or falsifiable statements have any meaning" (this statement is by it's nature incapable of verification, thus contradicts itself). Atheism and agnosticism cannot be expressed without simultaneously contradicting the ideas they assert. They are beliefs of convenience, not reality. [emphasis added]

Krauss's answer is that he takes evidence to be "something which can be falsified" and more broadly he points out how science worked effectively to get us to where we are today whether you (or Craig) like it or not. Krauss pointed out similarly at the beginning of his part of the debate that the "evidence" spoke of by Craig is not what scientists today would consider evidence and that reality has continually confounded human sensibilities. Also at the beginning of his presentation, Krauss said that if you see something you believe to be impossible, it is your responsibility to figure out how it happened and "force [y]our beliefs to conform to the evidence of reality rather than the other way around" which does seem to be the main problem with beliefs in gods and the credulous uptake of mere stories as evidence for those gods.

Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:04:06 UTC | #609932

Go to: Happy Birthday to Richard Dawkins

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Happy Birthday! Just finished the first chapter of The GOD Delusion and am blown away by how forward-thinking it was when you wrote it (so that it continues to be relevant today) and how formidable it must be for theists--not to mention, eminently enjoyable!

Sat, 26 Mar 2011 17:37:53 UTC | #607486

Go to: YouTube: Karen Armstrong on Skavlan, SVT, 18 March 2011

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The very first words out of her mouth are that most people's conception of their god is "infantile"--compared to her own illustrious, Santa-Claus-level, sophisticated conception of a god. Why would any believer want someone like her on their side?

Mon, 21 Mar 2011 19:50:07 UTC | #605523

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