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Cafe fan banned in case smell of bacon offends Muslims - last commented 29 October 2010 05:15 PM

Six arrested in Gateshead over 'Koran burning'‏ - last commented 03 October 2010 01:15 PM

Is this an atheist wedding ceremony? - last commented 20 June 2010 01:40 PM

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Go to: Nuptial nonsense

Freethinker15's Avatar Jump to comment 8 by Freethinker15

Marriage is first and foremost a legal institution to create alliances between different tribes/families. It predates any single religion, and is used today to confer certain rights. IMO it helps create stability and ensures that a housewife or househusband (if there is one) does not get left stranded when one of them decides to cease the longstanding relationship. Remember the housewife/husband does not get paid.

We shouldn't target the hostage for being kidnapped, we should target the kidnappers, i.e. religion for hijacking marriage.

Wed, 22 Dec 2010 14:32:54 UTC | #567304

Go to: Condescension and intolerance from adults

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Hey Shawn,

Unfortuantely, it doesn't change with age. I am quite a bit older and most of my family adopt the same reasoning as your parents. Consequently, I've learnt to shut up about such things and accept that I'm in the intellectual wilderness when it comes to the real world and religion. Good luck.

Tue, 14 Dec 2010 19:57:45 UTC | #563297

Go to: Religion infiltrating atheist families

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Hey SOHELPMEREASON,

I don't think you should be that bothered as he is quite young and still has time to change when he can actually think about things more deeply.... however, I don't think you should be quiet at all if these wishy washy things are ever mentioned, no matter how old he is.

I had quite a similar experience with my sister who became a creationist at the age of 20 via her creationist BF, even though she came from an irreligious household. The mistake that I made and others did is think that because you come from an irreligious household you are in some way immune to such conversion or at least amenable to counter arguments. My sister refuses to even speak to me about it; and thus she has closed her ears to all arguments against it, and consequently our relationship has severely suffered. To be clear, I don't care what anyone believes, but I do care that they have been trained to no longer listen to any counter argument or think for themselves. I still haven't got over it.

So yeah don't worry until he gets older. Your very presence will probably be enough to counter any long lasting impact of such messages, but don't refrain from taking him to task and getting him to reason now and again. It's a tight rope because you don't want to be overbearing, but you don't want to leave it too late. I've come to accept that people past middle age are a lost cause.

Mon, 13 Dec 2010 17:49:15 UTC | #562583

Go to: I wonder what his faith is?

Freethinker15's Avatar Jump to comment 38 by Freethinker15

Yep, definitely gay.

Sun, 05 Dec 2010 15:27:43 UTC | #558811

Go to: UN to Take Up Measure Suppressing Religious Criticism; Votes Against Sexual Orientation Protection

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Comment 57 by HughCaldwell :

Comment 42 by mmurray Have a look at the extracts of the police interview with that girl who stabbed an MP in the UK.

She was influenced by a charismatic demagogue with no religious authority and she,herself, had little knowledge of the Koran. You should declare the Koran 'Not guilty!' in this instance.

hahaha, of course we can only make such observations when these preachers have obtained their "religious authority", whatever that is. Furthermore, you obviously missed the parts in the police interview where she directly quotes from the koran to support her actions. I have no idea what makes somone like you bend over backwards to supports such vile characters and actions.

Koran (2:191) And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.

O yeah the context is self defence... thats okay then.

Have you never wondered what makes her take this shit on faith whereas someone like me, who has never been religious, would not?

Also, who would you trust a preacher who has no religous authority but whose words can be supported by the koran or a preacher who misses out huge chunks?

Sat, 20 Nov 2010 16:18:40 UTC | #550510

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