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CelestialSpeedUp's Avatar Jump to comment 552 by CelestialSpeedUp

No, you're missing the point. Opinions only matter if they are backed up with evidence. You cut and pasted Wallace's claims about the hand of a creator. Well that's a nice anecdote. But, lacking any actual evidence that there actually was a creator involved, that is all his opinion remains: an anecdote.


I thought it was a nice anecdote too. :^)

I read somewhere that Darwin may not have turned agnostic, but turned a bit bitter because his daughter died at 10 yrs old. And it often takes such a tragedy for people to seek more answers to the purpose of life. It did for me. I had a dear friend commit suicide.

Another spiritual experience. They returned to me in a real vision and said they would not have done it if they had realized (something personal). It was something they did not know before they committed suicide, but if they had known it before committing suicide, they would not have done it.

So, IMO, Swedenborg answered many of my unanswered questions. And I can agree with Wallace, and many of those others I mentioned.

A person just has to look within their own hearts and minds, their own lives. Are your dreams being realized? I can say most all of mine have been. But it's not been easy by any stretch of the imagination. But I know there was something 'supernatural' you may call it, that has been around.

Now you can pick this apart and insult me some more if you wish.

We'll never agree it's obvious. But I consider you all friends anyway. :^) Thanks for the chatting!

Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:58:00 UTC | #419243

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CelestialSpeedUp's Avatar Jump to comment 545 by CelestialSpeedUp

And yet you keep acting like Dylan's, Einstein's, Darwin's and Wallace's amongst others opinions have any sort value.


Perhaps they have no value to you, but their opinions have been valuable to millions of people, including myself.

Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:31:00 UTC | #419228

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CelestialSpeedUp's Avatar Jump to comment 539 by CelestialSpeedUp

Actually, most people would complain that I'm arrogant.


Not to worry...only the ego can be arrogant.

Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:24:00 UTC | #419219

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CelestialSpeedUp's Avatar Jump to comment 534 by CelestialSpeedUp

I really couldn't care less if the whole world was in disagreement with me, as long as the facts are not.


My sentiments exactly. :^)

Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:19:00 UTC | #419214

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CelestialSpeedUp's Avatar Jump to comment 525 by CelestialSpeedUp

Hi Quetzalcoatl,

Since we've been discussing theistic vs non-theistic viewpoints, I just thought it was interesting what he said.

Even more interesting, to me, is that of his cohort, Wallace.....

excerpts from an interview...

"..But, in any case, you believe that there is purpose in creation?"

"It meets me everywhere I turn. I cannot examine the smallest or the commonest living thing without finding my reason uplifted and amazed by the miracle, by the beauty, the power, and the wisdom of its creation. Have you ever examined the feather of a bird? I almost think a feather is the masterpiece of nature. No man in the world could make such a thing, or anything in the very slightest degree resembling it.

Someone has said that a single feather from a heron's wing is composed of over a million parts! The quill is socketed, held together by little contrivances in the nature of hooks and eyes; it is of a material so light that a finger can twist it out of shape, but if it gets pierced or separated by any slight blow it becomes quickly reunited and restored.

Watch a bird sailing high above the earth in a gale of wind, and then remind yourself of the lightness of its feathers. And those feathers are airtight and waterproof, the perfectest venture imaginable!....

Evolution can explain a great deal; but the origin of a feather, and its growth, this is beyond our comprehension, certainly beyond the power of accident to achieve."

He shook his head and smiled amiably upon the hotheadedness of Darwinians. "The scales on the wings of a moth," he said quietly, "have no explanation in Evolution. They belong to Beauty, and Beauty is a spiritual mystery. Even Huxley was puzzled by the beauty of his environment. What is the origin of Beauty? Evolution cannot explain."...

..."Nevertheless, of course, evolution is a sound hypothesis?"

"Every fresh discovery in nature fortifies that original hypothesis. But this is the sane and honest evolution, which does not concern itself at all with beginnings, and merely follows a few links in a fairly obvious chain. As for the chain itself, evolution has nothing to say.

For my own part, I am convinced that at one period in the earth's history there was a definite act of creation, that from that moment evolution has been at work, guidance has been exercised. The more deeply men reflect upon what they are able to observe, the more they will be brought to see that Materialism is a most gigantic foolishness...."

http://web2.wku.edu/~smithch/wallace/S746.htm



;^)

Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:48:00 UTC | #419196

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