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Go to: The Moral Equivalent of the Parallel Postulate

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Agreed.

I'm no more anxious to consult the "Periodic Table of the Ethics" than the fables of King James to determine right from wrong.

I'd rather decide for myself whether eating a Big Mac is morally justifiable than leave it to a body whose members are in flux over how many planets there are...


-jjg

Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:47:00 UTC | #452103

Go to: Dawkins at On Faith

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Robertson's suggestion that the Earth shook because the Haitians pissed off Yahweh is as ridiculous as Danny Glover's insistence that the quakes are the wrath of the great god "Kyoto". Neither man warrants our attention in this matter.

The Haitians, however, do...


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Wed, 27 Jan 2010 01:24:00 UTC | #435667

Go to: Are we better off without religion?

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Replying upward:


"It infuriates me to think that progress like this has been delayed because of religious idiots."

Note that they're treating the MS patients with their own stem cells, not the embryonic flavor.

While I abhor all manner of zealotry, I'm hard-pressed to find any organized movement opposing the re-implantation of one's own adult stem-cells.

...and...

"Evolution is rock-solid, iron-clad, undeniable, and has far more evidence on its side than virtually anything in sociology."

I applaud this proclamation. Had the sentence ended with "climatology", it would have warranted standing-applause, but nicely said just the same...


-jjg

Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:18:00 UTC | #421584

Go to: Climate Change editorial

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Nastika,


Got it. I shouldn't selectively cull my facts when discussing CRU just to support my side of the argument.

I'm reminded by that irony, of a local evangelist who runs radio ads arguing that theists should defend themselves against persecution with the same conviction that Gallileo did.

I'd like the three of us to sit down for drinks.

I'll bring the Dramamine...


-jjg

Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:46:00 UTC | #421058

Go to: Climate Change editorial

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"At the risk of stating the obvious: climate change is backed by science. Religion is not."

Oh the contrast between religious and global changing zealotry is a stark one indeed.

When observations of the physical world no longer fit their flat-Earth dogma, some in the religious community re-interpret their texts to retrofit and re-align their gospel with the real, non-planar world. A flat Earth at the center of the universe is reluctantly accepted by their congregation as an orbiting sphere, and the gospels are re-interpreted to support this "new reality".

That's their religion.

When the observations of the physical world no longer fit their man-made cooling dogma, some in the scientific community re-interpret their data to retrofit and re-align their hypothesis with the real, non-freezing world. A measurably temperate planet is reluctantly accepted by their congregation as not cooling, and the data are re-interpreted to support this "new reality".

That's their science.

When carbon-dating evidence suggests that the Earth is much older than biblical texts suggest, the argument is a begrudging acknowledgment to the effect that yes, the carbon dating data shows the planet to be well over 10,000 years old, but the data are surely wrong.

Contrast that stance with a reading from the gospel of the CRU, wherein Trenberth spake thusly to Mann and his disciples:

"The CERES data published in the August BAMS 09 supplement on 2008 shows there should be even more warming: but the data are surely wrong. Our observing system is inadequate."

The former argument is faith-based, while the latter appears based on faith. Yes, that's much different.

Yea, verily...


-jjg

Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:54:00 UTC | #421021

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