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Go to: German Home-Schoolers Granted Political Asylum in US

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@anthonzi

Thank you for the vagina/clowncar comment. You brightened my day.

OK time to stop being outraged and go eat something XP

Thu, 28 Jan 2010 04:11:00 UTC | #436179

Go to: German Home-Schoolers Granted Political Asylum in US

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Here is why this article pissed me off so much (this isn't directed at anyone in particular).

Today I caught part of a program on National Geographic about the group of people in Mauritania who see obesity as the ideal form of female beauty. Parents will force feed their daughters in order to get them up to an enormous size. I actually watched a woman pour milk down her daughter's throat while the little girl cried, screamed, and vomited up the milk. When the girl wouldn't drink, her mother squeezed her toes with wooden planks. The entire thing was horrible to watch.

It is easy to ask how any parent could torture their child like that. But here is the thing--in a country like Mauritania a little girl like the one in the show probably doesn't have much in the way of future prospects unless she marries a man who can provide for her. And she has to be fat to attract a husband. As horrible as it is, her mother is probably doing the one thing that could improve her future, assuming it doesn't kill her.

And that is why I get pissed off when I hear about well-off, privileged jackasses seeking asylum over something like this. That mother is shoving food down her screaming daughter's throat because that is the only thing she can offer her. She can't send her to school, which means she can't get a meaningful job (it is a predominantly Muslim society so who knows what the possibility of a woman supporting herself would be). The whole situation is just awful.

But here we are giving Germans asylum. From Germany. One of the richest and freest countries in the world.

These people have been blessed with the opportunity to get their children a decent education and instead they are dragging them off to a foreign country so they can brainwash them in the basement. Even if their children were being bullied this reaction is insane. And when you think of all the children in the world who would have gladly taken their place at school, it is just infuriating.

I am kind of rambling at this point... But still, it annoys me.

Thu, 28 Jan 2010 04:08:00 UTC | #436178

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@InYourFaceNewYorker

I was also conflicted about the bullying aspect of the story. It is terrible that so many children face bullying and even violence in schools. I can understand wanting to protect your children.

The problem, however, is that the article indicated that the parents had a choice of schools, including a religious one. These people were willing to seek asylum in the US--surely they could have simply spent more effort looking for a better school in Germany. The whole thing is just fishy. It really just seems like these people wanted to be able to brainwash their children more effectively so they came to the US where home schooling is allowed. The bullying seemed secondary to the 'religious persecution' angle.

But I could be wrong. It would have been nice if they could have elaborated a bit on the situation.

EDIT: LOL. I wrote this in response to your first post before I saw your response to me. Seems like we both had the same thought about wanting more information. Great minds think alike.

Thu, 28 Jan 2010 03:12:00 UTC | #436167

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This story is so stupid it hurts.

These people had their choice of schools from one of the richest nations in the world. They even had the option of choosing a religious school! But instead of being grateful for the opportunities they had by virtue of their citizenship, they decided that it wasn't good enough. It wasn't that the textbooks were out of date or that there weren't enough supplies or that the teachers were apathetic--no, the real problem with German schools was the lack of Christianity.

All around the world there are children from impoverished countries who struggle to learn in dirt hovels with no textbooks and one measly chalkboard, if even that. Despite the difficult circumstances, these children make their way to school, sometimes under threat of bodily harm (like little girls in Afghanistan). Those children would kill for the educational opportunity that these parents so cavalierly rejected. I feel sorry for their children who are being deprived of a meaningful education.

And that isn't even the worst part! These people were given ASYLUM. Think of all the people in the world who genuinely need asylum in a country like the US, not because their local school isn't Christian enough, but because their LIVES are in danger if they don't leave their country. If this is persecution then I am a goddamn martyr. Even if you just look at Christian persecution there are so many more worthy individuals than this. As we speak, Malaysia is tearing itself apart over the word 'Allah' and Christians are being targeted.

This whole thing is a joke. The bar for Christian persecution has never been lower. And I wonder, if the anti-gay Ugandan bill gets passed will we be as welcoming to all the gay, HIV-positive Ugandans who will undoubtedly seek refuge here? Gee, let me guess...

Thu, 28 Jan 2010 02:35:00 UTC | #436161

Go to: Oh no! "Licentiousness breeds extremism"

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People are so quick to spew outrage over the 'indecent' clothing one finds in modern Western societies. But what about groups in Africa and other warm parts of the world where they often wear even less? Isn't this just as scandalous?

If the topless African women in National Geographic don't stop provoking my lust soon, I may just have to take matters into my own hands. :P

Tue, 12 Jan 2010 07:34:00 UTC | #431196

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