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Go to: Searching under the lamp-post

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Life exists in a multitude of forms throughout several places in the universe. (5 continents that we already know of.)

There is no logical reason to automatically discount the possibility of life elsewhere in the universe/multiverse/omniverse.

I've seen some dangerous predators in the zoo (earth) which I've never seen in the wild (outer space).

Now, suppose I am off on a trip into outer-space (the Serengeti)

Would it be logical/rational for me to automatically ASSUME there are no dangerous creatures there?

Fri, 30 Dec 2011 03:32:50 UTC | #903701

Go to: Searching under the lamp-post

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There's an atheist Global Moderator on rationalskepticism.org who claims that Occam's Razor compels all rational people to hold a default position in respect to extra terrestrial life.

Namely, that like the God conclusion/delusion, in the absence of empirical evidence the only valid rational position should be a presumption that there is no ET life..."out there".

However, I think it is VERY rational to..."suspect that there is life elsewhere in the universe".

Fri, 30 Dec 2011 03:21:01 UTC | #903700

Go to: Secular Guidelines to Moral Living: A Tribute to Christopher Hitchens

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Comment 5 by Agrajag

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I can’t forget the 60 Minutes interview with Christopher Hitchens in which he responded to a question about the afterlife that he liked “surprises”.

I found that an unusual response

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I hope you're not thinking that it was some sort of a covert deathbed conversion. It was his well-developed sense of humor. Steve

I dont want to sound inflammatory in a predominantly atheist thread about Mr Hitchens passing.

But, not to put too fine a point on it, yes I actually do think there is/was a glimmer of something. Hope?

I'm not trolling. (Mods please note, I had enormous, albeit grudging, respect for this highly skilled opponent in the AvT contest of ideas.)

Fri, 30 Dec 2011 02:20:45 UTC | #903695

Go to: American Atheists must define themselves, not be defined by the religious

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"The large audience for the writings of atheists..."

Agreed, a very large audience indeed - but an audience consisting mostly of concerned theists. IMO

Just as we need to consider the motivation driving the author(s) of an AvT book, it's important to consider the motivation of the reader. I have read a fair few Atheism vs Theism books and found the counter-apologist authors far more captivating than any of the hundreds of books written in response.

It is quite a leap of faith to equate the popularity of New Atheist literature with a commensurate popularity of atheism itself.

That's why there is a perception that New Atheism isn't getting the type of proportional return on investment it hoped for in the AvT contest of ideas.

Wed, 28 Dec 2011 21:59:16 UTC | #903392

Go to: Secular Guidelines to Moral Living: A Tribute to Christopher Hitchens

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I can’t forget the 60 Minutes interview with Christopher Hitchens in which he responded to a question about the afterlife that he liked “surprises”.

I found that an unusual response.

These are my musings.

Wed, 28 Dec 2011 21:40:42 UTC | #903381

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