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Go to: Tulsa nontheists come ‘Out of the Closet’ in FFRF campaign

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Comment 8 by Bipedal Primate :

A bland and diffuse message wrapped in the glorious aesthetics of your everyday run-of the-mill diaper commercials. Cringe-inducing and slightly revolting cuteness where the bottom line is "atheists are people too".

Yes.

I guess this is the correct way to talk to a fundamentalist America submerged in it's own fluffy bunny family value hormones.

I agree 100% with what you say. They remind me of a picture on the side of a grocery truck that I once saw of a woman who was far too happy to be eating a muffin. Overall I suppose the message is banal enough to not immediately raise the hackles of the faithful and that counts for something.

Wed, 25 May 2011 22:51:36 UTC | #630943

Go to: Atheist Billboard in Fresno Vandalized After Only Three Days

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Comment 24 by war critic :

Comment 20 by Foolishfool : You admitted yourself that you ASSUMED that the redirect was from an atheist, please provide evidence for your ASSUMED belief. If you cannot, then you are nothing but a troll and you can be ignored safely because you are obviously trying (and to some small extent succeeding) to grief the atheists. If that is so, I pity your smallness. Good day.

I take it you have evidence that this billboard was vandalized by a theist? Maybe it was done by a Poe. :)

Nowhere did I state or even imply that I thought that a theist was the vandal. Your attempt at a witty retort fails the second you have to put words into my mouth to make it. Thank you for failing.

Fri, 06 May 2011 21:10:48 UTC | #623971

Go to: Atheist Billboard in Fresno Vandalized After Only Three Days

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Comment 18 by war critic :

If you really believe that condemning and mocking billions of people is justified by an act of graffiti by some stupid kid in Fresno--and can maintain that belief when in the presence of someone who was forced into your midst by an act of vandalism by one of your own--then I can see why you would be offended at being called bigot. As you're likely fond of pointing out, however, your believing it don't make it so.

You admitted yourself that you ASSUMED that the redirect was from an atheist, please provide evidence for your ASSUMED belief. If you cannot, then you are nothing but a troll and you can be ignored safely because you are obviously trying (and to some small extent succeeding) to grief the atheists. If that is so, I pity your smallness. Good day.

Fri, 06 May 2011 20:52:43 UTC | #623956

Go to: Atheist Billboard in Fresno Vandalized After Only Three Days

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You know, that vandalism is probably a good thing. I mean, whoever did it left the website in tact, so there will probably be a hell of a lot more traffic to the site by people who don't already agree with it.

Thanks vandal for unwittingly sending believers to a place where they might actually have their beliefs challenged.

Fri, 06 May 2011 20:44:25 UTC | #623951

Go to: Egypt's Muslims attend Coptic Christmas mass, serving as "human shields"

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Comment 7 by NealOKelly :

Unusually quiet this thread. Especially for one that is tagged with both "Islam" and "Terrorism".

I wonder why? Is it because it doesn't conform to the "all muslims are evil" stance that is so common on this site?

How wonderfully troll-like of you, to try and sow discord over such a heartwarming story. If you don't have anything nice to say...

About the story:

This is a beautiful gesture, and one that I hope is repeated. Beyond what faith any of the people involved follow, their humanity shines through.

Fri, 07 Jan 2011 23:46:23 UTC | #574877

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Comment 12 by Daz365 :

We’ll have to agree to disagree, this section is for news not discussion and as I’ve said; many people just read the news articles not the comments section which means in some cases they are being unscientifically educated.

This whole site is meant to spark discussion amongst people who can think critically. Always pandering to the lowest common denominator creates a very stupid atmosphere (just look at television if you doubt that). The fact that any stories that are factually inaccurate, or obviously biased, or anything involving woo, get torn apart very quickly here in the comments section should have clued you in on that idea. And, because the news has comment sections, it enables critical thinkers to question the veracity of those articles that do pass as news in other forums. Nothing here is sacred or beyond criticism, thankfully, and if someone is too dim to understand the reason for posting bad articles (even under the news section), then perhaps that someone is in need of more help than simply placing these things under different headings can accomplish.

That said, quit trolling the moderator, you just come across as petty.

Thu, 30 Dec 2010 03:53:34 UTC | #570558

Go to: Condescension and intolerance from adults

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Comment 61 by HappyHighwayman :

I would point out that the Nazis burned books too. I'd then ask them what other aspects of the Nazi culture they value so highly.

Catholicism for one....

But in all seriousness, taking an extremely standoffish approach, such as dropping the 'you stole my books, replace them' demand, no matter how correct and justified, is not going to make his situation any more tolerable. Discretion is the better part of valor and this is probably going to take a bit more time and care than that. That is unless he wants to completely alienate himself from his parents. I agree that asking them why they had such a problem with the books is reasonable, but going in with both guns blazing just seems too reactionary for this situation to be resolved with any satisfaction for any of the parties involved.

Wed, 15 Dec 2010 21:17:40 UTC | #563899

Go to: Atheist Speakers Assaulted at Hawaii State Capital for Objecting to Senate Prayer

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Then why not say 'be quiet' or something to that effect? I am not necessarily disagreeing with you that it may have just been frustration at the interruptions, but the fact that they said 'amen' in such a manner, or at all, speaks volumes about the leanings of those in assembly. To me it really implies a sort of indignation that is religiously fueled. Many preachers, reverends, priests, etc. are given a sort of blanket authority here in the US that sits unchallenged except by us militant, upstart atheists.

People often interrupt speakers at the podium to make objections or the like, and they are rarely thrown to the pavement and beaten for it. The beating, we all agree was disgusting, and as someone who has worked security before, I will agree that many, not most or all, of the people that take that sort of job are in it just to bash some heads together. I always found talking to the people I had to throw out was the most effective way of dealing with situations (you never knew who would hold a grudge and would come back with a gun), but I definitely worked with some people that would use any excuse to start a fight. If Mr. Kahle was struggling with security, they would definitely up the aggro against him, such as manhandling him out of the room, but what came after was purely excessive.

Wed, 15 Dec 2010 20:37:51 UTC | #563880

Go to: Atheist Speakers Assaulted at Hawaii State Capital for Objecting to Senate Prayer

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Well, judging by the downright angry manner in which AMEN!!! was shouted, I think that the good reverend had a bit more authority, even if it is officially unrecognized by the state, over the lawmakers in the session than I think you are willing to admit.

Wed, 15 Dec 2010 14:50:09 UTC | #563702

Go to: Atheist Speakers Assaulted at Hawaii State Capital for Objecting to Senate Prayer

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As I understand the situation, the Hawaii State Senate had been ordered to stop the recitation of prayers in an earlier court order, but resumed anyway after a short time. I am basing this on the interview on Free Thought Radio that was linked in comment #3 (thanks for the link Jos). Because the senate willfully ignored a court order, I think that Kahle was justified in how he went about protesting since earlier attempts through the 'proper' channels had obviously failed. Perhaps my assumptions are wrong though, so if anybody knows better please feel free to correct me.

Secondly, to the assertion that the reverend was not a leader, he was leading the prayer and so had the attention of everybody present(to some degree or another)... also, he did have the podium... I am not condemning him from walking away from the situation at all though, just pointing out that he was acting in the role of a leader (even if it was merely a prayer) at the time of the incident, nothing more.

Lastly, the argument from tradition for saying prayers before sessions seems downright dishonest. Even if it is not specifically designed to promote one religion over another it still has no place in a secular institution other than to influence the lawmakers along the tenets of whatever faith is being represented. Why else would the prayer include a plea for divine guidance, rather than simply a prayer to keep the roof from collapsing while in session?

Wed, 15 Dec 2010 05:09:27 UTC | #563543

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I think Bill Maher had a great bit to say about police. He was speaking in reference to the protests in California over immigration that turned ugly because of police brutality at the time, but I think it still applies. I am paraphrasing here but it went something like this: "Police, we want to respect you and love you, but you have to remember, your badge says to serve and protect, not 'what the fuck are you looking at'"

I also wonder how police can justify destroying camera equipment, or even demand that they not be recorded. It just seems a bit paranoid to me. If the cops are not doing anything wrong, why would they object to being recorded? When a cop says 'put the camera down' I immediately assume that is because they have done, or are about to do something illegal. It all just seems like an abuse of power... not that that is anything new.

Of course I leave room for being wrong, but I honestly can't think of one legitimate reason, besides outing an officer that is undercover, for that kind of censorship especially when the officers are in uniform.

Wed, 15 Dec 2010 04:00:31 UTC | #563527

Go to: Condescension and intolerance from adults

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I went through a similar experience when I was growing up, not quite as bad as your situation though. I was raised in an Irish Catholic house and my arguments often fell on deaf ears. I was forced to go through Confirmation, a near total waste of 2 years worth of Sundays IMO, but some good did come from the ordeal.

Now to be fair, my parents were not as strict as yours seem to be, but they could not come to terms with the fact that I no longer believed in God, nor could they accept that I thought that going to church was a total waste of time. That is until I thoroughly trounced the nonsense a priest was spouting during one of those confirmation sessions.

It had to do with the 'natural family planning' (aka, pull-n-pray) method of avoiding pregnancy. Within the same lecture, this priest taught that the ONLY reason for sexual intercourse was to produce children, then said that natural family planning was acceptable if couples wished to avoid pregnancy. Of course, being meek as I was, my hand shot up immediately and I asked the priest what the difference was between using a condom and the pull-n-pray method other than reliability of course. Needless to say, he had no answer... at least none that I found acceptable, and I refused to yield to authority, which was the priests main argument.

I wish I could say that class was my last, but, as I was still only 15 at the time I yielded to my parents wishes and was confirmed anyway (I still had to live with them for a few years). Not that it mattered since I considered it a sham-confirmation because it was made under duress. I was lucky that the night I had my argument with the priest was a night in which most of the parents of the students/victims in the confirmation class were attending and I found that most of them sided with me and refused to let the now literally red-faced priest off the hook with his argument from authority. Another small victory for reason.

My main point is, if you find it impossible to just shut-up like I found it impossible to do so, the most effective method I have found of opening debate with a 'hostile' opponent is by asking questions and pointing out flaws in the logic to their answers in the guise of more questions. If you still come up against a wall with your parents then perhaps they are not so sure of their own beliefs, which would explain the book-burning tendency since they obviously felt threatened.

Tue, 14 Dec 2010 21:39:31 UTC | #563342

Go to: Tomorrow is Towel Day.

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I had no idea that Towel Day existed before seeing this post. I shall proudly carry a towel with me tomorrow. It seems like the least I can do to honor my favorite author's memory. Indeed, Adams's Hitchhiker's Guide series was the first series I ever took time to read and has continued to be my favorite series some sixteen years later. For opening my eyes to the joy of reading, the least I can do is carry a towel, plus they really do come in handy.

Tue, 25 May 2010 04:03:56 UTC | #473264

Go to: Why are you still catholic

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I read this quote from the mayor of Rome earlier today and I think this probably sums up what a lot of people think. 

"We want to show our solidarity to the pope and transmit the message that single individuals make mistakes but institutions, faith and religion cannot be questioned," Alemanno told Associated Press Television News. "We will not allow this."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100516/ap_on_re_eu/eu_vatican_pope - link to story

I'd be willing to bet if there was a Satanic institution he'd have no problem questioning its members' faith and religion.  The fact that so many people still overtly support the criminal organization that is the RCC is a testament to the sort of mental gymnastics that the church forces people to get good at.  Just trying to wrap your head around the whole trinity farce is enough to make excusing a bunch of pederasts a piece of cake.

Sun, 16 May 2010 17:15:34 UTC | #470570