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Go to: Unbelieving preachers get help to 'come out' as open atheists

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Posted this in the other threads too, but it seems apt

This above all: to thine own self be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man.

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:41:02 UTC | #947559

Go to: Church pastors become atheists

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This above all: to thine own self be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man.

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:39:34 UTC | #947557

Go to: Petition to defend Indian rationalist from false accusations

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signed

Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:23:25 UTC | #946184

Go to: UPDATED: Why I want all our children to read the King James Bible

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Having read God is Not Great, God Delusion, Letter to a Christian Nation and more besides I thought I should see for myself what the Bible is like. In recent years I have taken to reading a book of the Bible during Easter. So far I have ploughed my way through Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus and Numbers and found much to dislike - I was really shocked at the penalty of death for collecting sticks, the valuation of women as about half that of men, bored witless with the inanity of the penalties for various trangressions - but overall it is truly fascinating. However, how long before I get onto some 'nice' stuff?

As to whether school children should read it - well possibly; but only if it is presented as literature and not as fact or moral guidance, and how likely is that? Even the biblical story that seems to be presented to children quite often - Jonah and the Whale - is decidely odd (see other thread on this). Perhsps references to works from the bible might be introduced in secondary schools, but I would prefer they stuck to secular texts for primary.

Sat, 19 May 2012 21:13:26 UTC | #942320

Go to: Richard Dawkins on Beautiful Minds - BBC Four Wed April 25

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Looking fwd to it and have persuaded some xtians to watch too. Hope it is good!

Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:10:33 UTC | #936366

Go to: Richard Dawkins speaks at Reason Rally

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oops, think Prof RD said Earth is 4-5 million years old, think he meant 4-5 billion. That apart, good points as usual and optimistic for a tipping point, here's hoping.

Sun, 25 Mar 2012 20:35:11 UTC | #930425

Go to: “Forget Jesus” – Controversy at the Intersection of Miley Cyrus, Lawrence Krauss, Christianity, Atheism, Physics, Astronomy and Cosmology

Spawny Rosary's Avatar Jump to comment 13 by Spawny Rosary

I don't like the line "Stars died so you could live." It implies a sort of agency was at work, where of course there was none.

I know, I know, poetic and all that, but I think it gives the wrong impression.

Stars died providing the essential ingredients for life, or something. I'm no poet. Who can do better?

Ms Cyrus is however discovering how erm loving, caring and tolerant some of the Xtian community can be, when Jesus' name is besmirched.Perhaps that will give her cause for reflection.

Thu, 08 Mar 2012 20:21:38 UTC | #925455

Go to: Countless millions of taxpayers’ money spent on discrimination in schools

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We need to keep banging on to our politicians that we demand a secular society, or to support an organisation that lobbies parliament on our behalf.

It disturbs me that this UK gov, and the previous, have done so much to promote faith based schools.

I subscribe in the UK to National Secular Society, as I think they do a good job. I have also written to my Member of Scottish Parliament to request that they take account of the public's wishes with regard to the recent IPSOS/Mori poll on the desire for a secular society.

Is the problem that we need more good secular politicians in the UK (and by this I do not necessarily mean non-religious of course)?

Thu, 08 Mar 2012 12:53:39 UTC | #925366

Go to: What's the Place of Faith in Schools?

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Very good introduction of RD by Charles Clarke, and decent of him to discredit the smear tactics of certain other bodies. Courtesously responded by RD. Perhaps this is not as important as the content of the debate, but it is hugely refreshing and hopefully a sign of things to come. One might hope that political parties will sit up and take note of the Ipsos MORI poll results and pay due deference to public desires.

Fri, 24 Feb 2012 20:26:51 UTC | #921621

Go to: The Church wins the award for intolerance

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Nice article.

Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:49:32 UTC | #920547

Go to: Is Britain a Christian country?

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well done Andrew Copson and Richard Dawkins. Just amazed at some of the other views presented. I mean, wow! Wish there had been more time to press on why Christine Odone (?) 'believes' in the virgin birth. I wonder if they have even heard of the translation issues wrt virgin/young woman. She seems to personify 'belief in belief'. And her views that religion/faith is what causes people to be altruistic, argh.

I do hope the dig at the number of people supporting the NSS backfires on her. It doesn't cost much btw.

Sun, 19 Feb 2012 23:49:27 UTC | #919827

Go to: What is the proper place for religion in Britain's public life?- [Also in Polish]

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Surprised at, and somewhat disappointed in Will Hutton; delighted with force of argument, clarity and reason, as ever, from Richard Dawkins.

I do wonder that this exchange is published in the Observer, the readers of which I guess will be mainly on side? How does the message get propogated to everybody.

It does seem there is a degree of education to be done on what secularism means. As a start perhaps we could all post a definition on Facebook/wherever emphasizing that it is not a threat to religion, and quite different from atheism.

Sun, 19 Feb 2012 21:53:52 UTC | #919782

Go to: Secular Thought for the Day

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The above from Richard is great. I had the misfortune to listen to Thought For the Day this morning and was immediately reminded to look at platitudes website

Wed, 15 Feb 2012 22:18:26 UTC | #918213

Go to: RDFRS UK/Ipsos MORI Poll #2: UK Christians oppose special influence for religion in public policy

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What a lovely Valentine's Day present to atheists, humanists, secularists. Thank you RDFRS, Professor Richard Dawkins and Paula Kirby.

Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:41:12 UTC | #917652

Go to: RDFRS UK/Ipsos MORI Poll #1: How religious are UK Christians?

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Very important work - politicians should read the signs and get with the program. Secularism is essential to ensure all are treated fairly, religious and non-religious alike.

You would probably find that more atheists have read the bible recently. I decided to start at the beginning with Genesis and then carried on with Exodus. Much to dislike. Plan to read the next OT book for Easter.

Tue, 14 Feb 2012 08:38:24 UTC | #917544

Go to: Dawkins made it to my Sociology class

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This is indeed heartening. I hope it spreads. Many of the comments following the article are favourable.

Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:50:05 UTC | #915409

Go to: Is there hope? Even after religion?

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The reaon people believe these things are largely covered in Michael Shermer's book, the Believing Brain, which I'm working my way through just now. Advice, however, on what to do, I'm not so strong on. Try to get critical thinking in the curriculum?

Mon, 06 Feb 2012 21:26:38 UTC | #915144

Go to: New Rule: Atheism is not a religion! Unbaptizes Mitt Romney's Dead Father-In-Law!

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like

Sat, 04 Feb 2012 23:51:22 UTC | #914690

Go to: Tim Minchin song mocking Christ pulled from Jonathan Ross' Christmas special

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What a fantastic way to get the message across. Tim Minchin rocks!

Fri, 23 Dec 2011 09:08:45 UTC | #902157

Go to: David Cameron says the UK is a Christian country

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Dear Dave,

I spotted a mistake

We were a Christian country

There, fixed it for you.

Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:39:19 UTC | #901330

Go to: When the magic of reality collides with the magic of childhood

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I found it really hard to spin out the Santa myth for my son. I like that at 6 years old he has it sussed already. I would not dream of kidding him any more. I honestly think that he is relieved to know how it works.

My daughter at 4 years old is already questioning whether it is right for Santa to effectively break into the house down the chimney. I know many parents would find imaginative ways to counter the protestations of their children to "keep the magic alive", but to me it is simply confusing them.

Christmas can be fun even when the kids are in on the secret.

I think the problem is really that many parents like the idea for themselves. It is a bit like belief in belief.

I don't think I am being a killjoy for encouraging my children's attempt to rationalise the world. We will have a lovely Christmas with time for family and friends, gift giving and receiving, time to reflect. We don't need Santa to be real.

Merry Christmas everybody!

Thu, 15 Dec 2011 22:27:40 UTC | #899332

Go to: Free Bibles being sent to all schools

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Dear Mr Gove

If you can get the money back from this bible I have returned, please can you purchase the school a year's subscription to the National Secular Society instead. Their newsletters would provide interesting topics for discussion for the pupils in the more senior years.

Yours sincerely

Spawny Rosary

Thu, 01 Dec 2011 19:58:30 UTC | #894802

Go to: Channel 4 becomes "teach the controversy" stooges

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I found it highly entertaining. I also think it may do the cause of rationalism no great harm. Hopefully most people are beginning to see the deluded for what they are.

Sun, 27 Nov 2011 20:30:22 UTC | #893686

Go to: 'Brinicle' ice finger of death filmed in Antarctic

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Comment 14 by Reckless Monkey :

I remember making icecream using a similar technique. Back in the hand driven days, we had a large wooden bucket with a smaller stainless container for the icecream around the outside we packed loads of ice and heaps of salt to drop down the temp.

Ah, it's all making sense now - my daughter has one of these in plastic, only the ice cubes and salt are in the inside of a rotating drum and the cream sticks to the outside and is scraped off. om nom nom.

Thu, 24 Nov 2011 21:54:10 UTC | #892912

Go to: 'Brinicle' ice finger of death filmed in Antarctic

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Really fantastic footage. It took me a little while and wiki to suss the mechanism. See if I got this right...the formation of ice expels impurities, such as salt, from the sea water. This makes the water immediately under the ice very salty, and salty water is denser so it sinks. It is also very cold, as it has been in contact with the newly formed ice, but the salty water remains liquid as it would need to be even colder yet to freeze (because it is salty). It is the surrounding sea water that turns to ice, cooled by the plume of salty water sinking through it.

brinicle

Thu, 24 Nov 2011 20:51:06 UTC | #892907

Go to: High Court rules Catholic Church liable over priests

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Comment 10 by Cartomancer :

"Lay on, Macduff, And damned be him that first cries, "Hold, enough!""

great quotation, well spotted.

Tue, 08 Nov 2011 20:03:31 UTC | #888745

Go to: Archbishop calls for NHS bill to cover spiritual health

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sort of thing I love to stick on FB, but people get fed up of it. I'm glad he is saying these things. It can only show religion in a poor light, surely?

Thu, 03 Nov 2011 22:02:12 UTC | #887127

Go to: Believers vs. Non-Believers: Bill O’Reilly And Deepak Chopra Take On Atheists

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Yuck. OK I'm off to read another chapter of Magic of Reality or Cosmos, got both on the go just now.

Thu, 03 Nov 2011 21:58:35 UTC | #887124

Go to: Jonah and the Whale

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Thanks to a friend who commented to me, but hasn't posted here, I now have this earworm "It Ain't Necessarily So" by Gershwin and covered by many, including Cher and Bronski Beat! I recommend you go listen to a few.

"It ain't necessarily so

It ain't necessarily so

The t'ings dat yo' li'ble

To read in de Bible

It ain't necessarily so.

...

Oh Jonah, he lived in de whale

Oh Jonah, he lived in de whale

Fo' he made his home in

Dat fish's abdomen

Oh Jonah, he lived in de whale."

Wed, 02 Nov 2011 20:01:07 UTC | #886546

Go to: Jonah and the Whale

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Comment 5 by T4 :

Thanks for this, my bad re school ages. Also great advice re just treating it as a story etc (I might say a yarn!). As he hadn't come home with any idea of an implied deeper meaning, this is an ideal approach, and one I will apply unless and until he indicates otherwise.

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 23:09:11 UTC | #885843