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Comment 16 by BenS -

Call me a bluff old sentimentalist but I prefer to resolve arguments through reason and critical thinking. I can't imagine any point in my life where someone standing in front of me and repeating "You're a Jew." will ever convince me that I'm a Jew. As far as arguments go, that one's shit.

So good, it's worth repeating.

Unlike their shit arguments.

Thu, 16 Aug 2012 11:25:26 UTC | #950870

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Not yet tired of arguing, immensely tired of idiots.

Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:52:04 UTC | #950791

Go to: Classroom Clashes: Teaching evolution

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Comment 139 by YA -

Oh Irate Atheist as for your comment:"I'm impressed. Go on, convince me. I understand you believe evolution to be false. Yes or no?"

Fully no. Why don't we work with you trying to convince me to fully believe in Evolution.

Read Jerry Coyne's 'Why Evolution is True'.

Fri, 10 Aug 2012 16:21:26 UTC | #950605

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Comment 133 by YA -

I'm impressed. Go on, convince me. I understand you believe evolution to be false. Yes or no?

Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:02:04 UTC | #950594

Go to: Classroom Clashes: Teaching evolution

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Comment 124 by YA -

There's a significant difference between being open-minded and letting your brain fall out. It doesn't take a lot of prodding for you to throw your toys out of the pram, does it? A real shame, this is the only life you have and you are wasting a fair proportion of it on utter bilge..

Every idea requires tolerance for it. Scientists put work into their ideas. It's not data collecting. It's coming up with theories to explain what is seen in nature. It requires tolerance.

Equivocation.

Not everyone believes in it.

You don't 'believe' in science.

She may not require counseling. Crying is what she may have needed.

No. She needs to grow up and cut out the nonsense.

And you sir, are no scientist. Just a typical thumb-sucking theist, one whom I was prepared to start a dialogue with. Sadly, it would clearly be a waste of my valuable and finite time.

Go back to shouting to an empty sky and pretending to think you - literally - know the answer to everything. Moreover, that it was written down in a book by people who thought the earth was flat, the sun went round the earth and that every animal lived within walking distance of Noah's house.

Fri, 10 Aug 2012 12:50:26 UTC | #950586

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Comment 121 by Rob W.-

Science and Religion are two different kinds of conversations which shouldn't be in conflict anyway.

Wrong. Religious leaders claim this in order to con their followers. Religions make claims about reality. Science shows those claims to be false.

Religion is there to teach us how to relate to the Universe

What does that even mean?

However, I disagree with Thompson because he doesn't make a distinction between good religion and bad religion (just as there is good science and junk science)

Junk science is not science. All religion is false. See the difference?

Sometimes it seems that way because there's a lot of B.S. out there in the name of G0D, and that's very unfortunate.

You seem quite smart. Think slightly smarter and you'll see past the gish-gallop. It's not difficult, really.

Have a nice day.

And read Steven Pinker's 'How the Mind Works.'

Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:03:33 UTC | #950582

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You poor bastard.

Tue, 07 Aug 2012 09:02:31 UTC | #950482

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Splendid news. It's always good when someone supports the Universities, either of them.

Fri, 13 Jul 2012 12:48:32 UTC | #949048

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Comment 7 by Ted Vollers -

Gish gallop.

Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:16:17 UTC | #948898

Go to: A Matter of Faith

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A secret kool-aid drinker.

Tue, 10 Jul 2012 16:02:25 UTC | #948849

Go to: Primary school indoctrination (UK)

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Comment 19 by Ignorant Amos -

Will you marry me? Don't worry, I won't tell my wife.

Sun, 08 Jul 2012 13:55:38 UTC | #948764

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An overeducated twit.

There have been plenty before, there will be plenty again.

Fri, 06 Jul 2012 14:44:19 UTC | #948686

Go to: How to overcome indoctrination

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Have a beer and say bollocks to the lot of 'em. Does wonders for you.

Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:31:49 UTC | #948611

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Really, I don't have a lot of sympathy, especially for people in this evil organisation.

Get married somewhere else.

Maybe grow up and grasp that your particular Magic Jew cult is utter nonsense run by lunatics.

Scientists discover the Higgs (well, a Higgs, or an interesting anomaly anyway) and you still piss about with a bunch of old fools who believe in magic crackers.

Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:29:00 UTC | #948610

Go to: Mandatory religious worship in schools

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Comment 23 by CarolineMary -

But it is hard to see anything dangerous in getting together to sing a hymn and listen to a teacher either tell a bible story or preach a bit. Things like 'gods watching you, even at the bus stop so line up nicely. '

Difficult to see what is dangerous with 'believe what I say because I believe it' and teaching children lies alongside explicit instructions not to question authority and think critically.

Yeah, really difficult that. If only we had examples from history of the problems caused when large groups of people believe dumb things and follow ignorant fanatics, because they are unable or unwilling to see through the collective bullshit.

Wed, 04 Jul 2012 10:27:51 UTC | #948548

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Comment 19 by xmaseveeve -

I think that most of the problem is that people, even when they themselves don't believe, hear the word 'religion' as 'morals'. We must raise awareness that atheists can be moral.

The problem is that most people are too dumb to realise that religion is immoral.

Tue, 03 Jul 2012 15:40:42 UTC | #948506

Go to: The Dawkins Challenge

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Comment 89 by blitz442 -

This truly a case of the blind leading the blind.

Bland minds bluff.

Tue, 26 Jun 2012 13:54:23 UTC | #948118

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Comment 46 by Mee Peestevone -

Though they have passed out little valentine's day cards with a hershey kiss and a quote from Jesus attached to the card.

Do you get a free sick bag with them?

Fri, 22 Jun 2012 12:20:24 UTC | #947960

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I'm not stupid, I'm fucking stupid.

The only issue I have with this, is that I hate stupidity.

It's a bit of an arse.

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 08:10:23 UTC | #947735

Go to: Dawkins calls for 'Catholic' honesty

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@Marcus -

Why do you, an intelligent decent caring thoughtful individual, have anything whatsoever to do with this utter tosh?

On god or gods, I been saying something similar for almost all the time I have been here (since 2007). It is not really possible to speak of the God of the bible. The god of the Patriarchs, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, mostly referred by the name El (although not exclusively, but then one must not forget the work of redactors), is not the same as as the YHWH of Moses. Neither is the religion the same, the practices are very different. Compare the 'rather do it yourself' family religion of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob with that of the tribal and far more priestly religion of Moses. Both however worship local gods, particular to their situation. One would be hard pushed to call the religion of Moses monotheistic, henotheistic yes, but not monotheistic. One has to wait until the exile in Babylon before monotheism as we might understand it developed.

Before anyone says but hold on a moment what about 'chapter x of the book of X, verse x' doesn't it say......

It may well do, but don't forget the final redactions of most of these texts did not take place until after the exile, who were trying to harmonise the early henotheistic texts with the now developed monotheism.

Again the god of the NT is different and similar, as are the gods of the Church fathers, and beyond. I would say along with Ronald Hutton that one should not speak about Christianity, rather speak about many christianities, across, time, geography, social economic class and so on.

Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:58:51 UTC | #947211

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Comment 182 by Marcus Small -

The church and much of society is obsessed with sex.

Actually, I'm obsessed with concerns about adequate drainage and preventing brambles from growing back. Heavy clay soil provides difficulty with the former and as for the latter, well, they're a right bugger to stop altogether without employing extreme measures.

Sex? Wtf is that?

Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:21:04 UTC | #946852

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Comment 30 by Marcus Small -

Human self identity like the words we use to describe it, is not as easy to pin down.

Human beings like their words and ideas will not submit easily to identifiers of another's convenience.

Fine, in that case I'm a radical Islamist and nothing you can say, nor any definitions of 'radical' and 'Islamist' can sway me from self-identifying as such.

Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:23:46 UTC | #946637

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Comment 16 by Marcus Small -

I suppose for some, it would be nice to live in world where words mean what the dictionary says they mean. I rather fear, no, hope, that words are not like that.

Actually, words are like that, otherwise they are meaningless noises.

Of course tidy minded, black and white, 'either or types' find that infuriating and even inconvenient.

Those of us who prefer facts to flummery, elucidation to equivocation, sophistication to sophistry?

The sort of people who point out that the Emperor has no clothes?

And are damn proud to do so, on all counts.

Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:32:34 UTC | #946362

Go to: Sins of Memory

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I have no recollection of saying those particular words.

Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:03:34 UTC | #946094

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Comment 47 by EvN

It did not even merit a chuckle, Irate. Depressing it was. One of those double facepalm moments.

So, what do you think about the situation in South Korea?

What do I think? Different country, same old morons. A collective waste of valuable oxygen.

Wed, 06 Jun 2012 16:33:37 UTC | #945908

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Damn you, mods. I wanted a good laugh to cheer myself up. Now my only remaining option is to look at my Lib Dem membership card.

Wed, 06 Jun 2012 15:59:17 UTC | #945892

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Comment 52 by cholsy -

To understand the bible you have to forget everything you've ever learnt and read it again, using only the bible to interpret the bible.

I guess if you're pig-ignorant of the facts then you could certainly be suckered in.

Maybe a lobotomy is required.

Wed, 30 May 2012 15:05:25 UTC | #944521

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northern witness -

What makes what your god say is good, actually be good?

Evidence is required for any claims.

Circular arguments are not valid.

I note also that you have failed to address my earlier questions.

Thu, 24 May 2012 14:28:45 UTC | #943287

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Comment 161 by northern witness -

Second, yes, Jesus did come back. Read your Bible. Even Dawkins knows that.

The OP was referring to the mythical second coming.

Third, God is not an individual. God as a person is a metaphor, a personification device to simplify an abstract concept for a simple audience. It seems that the device is not simple enough for Atheists.

Ooh, get her.

Let's see.

It's a metaphor.

For the personification.

Of an abstract concept.

How amusing.

And as for this:

. Perhaps you and a few of the other Atheists here need to take an introductory course to English literature to discover what some of these devices are.

Right. Let's start at the beginning.

What evidence do you have for who wrote it?

And why they wrote it?

What evidence do you have that the Adam and Eve story is supposed to be a metaphor?

What evidence do you have that your interpretation of this metaphor is correct?

What evidence do you have for the major premise of your metaphor, that a god - your particular one - actually exists?

I await your answers with interest.

Thu, 24 May 2012 12:47:41 UTC | #943266

Go to: We asked "Do you really believe ___" and they said yes. Now what?

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Comment 612 by xmaseveeve -

Do you think that maybe 'radishes' is a euphemism for magic mushrooms?

I don't think so. Maybe he should have chosen marrows and then shoved them up his [That's enough. Ed]

Wed, 23 May 2012 15:14:11 UTC | #943109