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Go to: In praise of Richard Dawkins

Beethoven's Avatar Jump to comment 19 by Beethoven

"It proclaimed the greatest discovery in the history of humanity: Organic Evolution."

This is going over the top. First, Darwin did not discover it. Many people suspected evolution, but did not have the evidence. Darwin provided the evidence . He was the first to "prove it".

Second, there are other great theories and discoveries in cosmology and physics , so I do not like these marketing gimmicks about the "greatest theory". Let us try to be more respectful of what other people have done.

Sun, 22 Jan 2012 17:31:16 UTC | #910742

Go to: Worrying developments for freedom of expression in the UK

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Islamophobia is a sign of a healthy mind.

Of course I fear bigoted violence prone people with weird beliefs about the world. They are a danger to our technological civilization and the political and cultural freedoms it espouses.

That fear has nothing to do with the color of their skin or their race. It has only to do with their beliefs and attitudes.

Wed, 18 Jan 2012 03:57:53 UTC | #909415

Go to: Worrying developments for freedom of expression in the UK

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Wed, 18 Jan 2012 03:56:27 UTC | #909414

Go to: Jake: Hanging out with a teenage Einstein

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I am skeptical of this teenage genius business.

Wunderkinds are notoriously unreliable -- their abilities miraculously disappear when they become adults. Even Mozart's abilities did not impress the courts of Europe once he was an adult and Mozart is a wunderkind who did not regress into mediocrity.

I guess we will wait and see.

Tue, 17 Jan 2012 00:43:06 UTC | #909019

Go to: Violinists can’t tell the difference between Stradivarius violins and new ones

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I am speculating that a similar study will show that the reverence accorded to a lot of "top" US/UK universities is also irrational.

A double blindfold assessment of the research of a professor from Harvard/Cambridge.Oxford will not be found to be superior to the research at many other less known universities.

Even scientists who are supposed to be interested only in objective truths fall prey to irrelevant things like brand name and authority.

Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:26:32 UTC | #904776

Go to: Europe's crisis of faith

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"Ultimately we need a sense of being accepted unconditionally. "

The pope reveals the main human weakness on which religions prey with their false promises. If people have the sense of being accepted by a stable society and loved by their relatives, then religion cannot manipulate them for its own profit.

Many people join Christianity , because it gives them the sense of being loved and accepted. Just like a desperate lover who always sees the best in the object of his adoration (no matter what), many religious folks ignore the evidence of Christianity's utter idiocy and wickedness.

Mon, 02 Jan 2012 05:42:55 UTC | #904444

Go to: Afterword from Lawrence Krauss' New Book - A Universe From Nothing

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Congratulations to professor Krauss on his new recent book. May the professor continue to produce new and important scholarly works in the new 2012.

Sat, 31 Dec 2011 04:02:10 UTC | #903952

Go to: American Atheists must define themselves, not be defined by the religious

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Loved the article, but it also made me pessimistic and sad.

How can we possibly fight so much arrogance mixed with stupidity?

Thu, 29 Dec 2011 02:13:25 UTC | #903442

Go to: Secular Guidelines to Moral Living: A Tribute to Christopher Hitchens

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Comment 9 by Finch :

From the article:

I know too that Hitchens conformed to at least one of these guidelines: he left the world a better place. He will be missed.

Hitch, you will be missed. Yet, your influence will be treasured, for ages.

I never liked Hitch's indulgence with alcohol and tobacco. It was a foible to be sure, but irresponsible towards his family nevertheless. I think he could have produced all of his great work without the stupefying effects of alcohol and tobacco. His creative genius was used as an excuse for irresponsible indulgence.

I must hurriedly say that I am not better as a human being . We all have failings and Hitch is no different. We can still admire and respect each other despite our shortcomings.

IMO, humanity could solve all of its problems with one moral guideline: "Love your neighbor as yourself."

Except that it will not work in practice. If you see my neighbors you would most definitely consider loving them a waste of resources. What if your neighbor is Alister MacGrath? Loving and assisting Alister would be wrong in the grand scheme of things.

Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:52:32 UTC | #903440

Go to: The atheist who tried to steal Christmas

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Ok, so if a christian has given money to the Natural history museum then it has christian heritage?

Now if an atheist has given money to any organization then we must count that organization as having atheist heritage.

This guy believes in virgin births and dead bodies walking and rising to the clouds. Need I say more about his intellectual abilities?

Tue, 27 Dec 2011 20:59:00 UTC | #903097

Go to: Evolution, Christmas and the Atonement

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What is truly shocking is that this moron is at Cambridge !!!??? Such revelations make me not regret turning down a research job offer at Cambridge.

Denis Alexander is director of the Faraday Institute for science and religion, St. Edmund's College, Cambridge, where he is a fellow.

Shame on Cambridge -- a formerly great institution, but now sadly in steady decline.

Sun, 25 Dec 2011 06:02:06 UTC | #902571

Go to: Remembering Christopher Hitchens

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We should spray all campuses susceptible to Catholicism with


Such a deodorant will surely freshen the intellectual atmosphere.

Sat, 24 Dec 2011 00:32:51 UTC | #902309

Go to: Turin Shroud resurrected

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The best evidence that Christianity is false would be to find a "video tape" taped by a more advance civilization showing how someone removes the dead body of Jesus from the tomb and all the details around the construction of the cult. This will be the same as having been there and seen the Jesus was a mere mortal.

Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:08:35 UTC | #901811

Go to: God Sent Christopher Hitchens to Hell Because He Loved Him

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I think this guy makes some "excellent" points: He explains how in the end it is Hitchens' will and desires that prevail over god's will and desires.

God is powerless to affect Hitchens or change his mind. Hitchens is unmoved by any of God's threats or inducements.

God simply has to admit that his presumed omnipotence is worth nothing in his battle of wills with Hitch!!

And then this guy wonders why we admire Hitch?! Has he not heard of the nice little story in the Bible about David and Goliath?

Sun, 18 Dec 2011 20:45:22 UTC | #900750

Go to: Islam, Charles Darwin and the denial of science

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it is easily fixed. The entrance exam for biology and medical students should be based on evolutionary biology and psychology. They will have to know everything in that field to pass the exam. This will force them to read all the relevant material and in the process of reading it , they will see the light.

Fri, 09 Dec 2011 11:34:50 UTC | #897058

Go to: Michigan's bullying law passes state senate

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I think this is positive development in the sense that this is another gross mistake by the religious establishment. This mistake will cost them a lot of good will, because many blatantly evil acts will be justified with religion. If this does not antagonize people toward religions, nothing will.

Tue, 08 Nov 2011 04:18:07 UTC | #888471

Go to: Halal and kosher hit by Dutch ban

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If one of the effects of this ban is to drive out religious idiots then so much the better for this ban. We have a silver bullet --- reducing animal suffering and expelling religious lunatics out of the country.

Tue, 08 Nov 2011 03:54:58 UTC | #888470

Go to: Sluts, Jenny McCarthy, Vaccinations, and God

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Anyone who claims that the double standard with respect to male and female promiscuity is sexism does not know much science and biology.

If we accept the premise that the different sexual psychology amounts to sexism then women not fighting in the armed forces or men not being able to give birth is sexual discrimination against men.

Thu, 03 Nov 2011 23:32:22 UTC | #887161

Go to: Why I refuse to debate with William Lane Craig

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By now it should be clear that failing to ignore WJC was a mistake.

Dawkins' explanations of why he does not debate WJC has served Craig's agenda of self-promotion and cheap publicity.

It would have been far better for the professor to completely ignore him: If he is asked about WJC at a debate he can respond : " Who is WJC? I am sorry that I am busy and that I have to turn down so many invitations to debate. "

Wed, 02 Nov 2011 06:26:40 UTC | #886325

Go to: Freud and psycho-analysis: still useful?

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Nice quotes from wikipedia:

Peter Medawar, a Nobel Prize winning immunologist, made the oft-quoted remark that psychoanalysis is the "most stupendous intellectual confidence trick of the twentieth century", and Webster calls it "perhaps the most complex and successful" pseudoscience in history. Crews writes that "Step by step, we are learning that Freud has been the most overrated figure in the entire history of science and medicine—one who wrought immense harm through the propagation of false etiologies, mistaken diagnoses, and fruitless lines of inquiry."

Freud always sounded to my ears as a postmodernist intellectual impostor.

Tue, 01 Nov 2011 22:45:48 UTC | #886173

Go to: Freud and psycho-analysis: still useful?

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Freud's "science" is as important as theology.

The loss of Freud's life work is comparable to the loss of all the world's theological bafflegab.

Tue, 01 Nov 2011 22:34:18 UTC | #886167

Go to: Britain must be a country where people can be proud of their religion

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Britain should be a country where stupid people like baroness Warsi are not put in a position of any power, but hold jobs that are commensurate with their limited intellect (cleaning or retail).

Sat, 29 Oct 2011 04:06:35 UTC | #885145

Go to: Serious claims belong in a serious scientific paper

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Greenfield appears to be incompetent in a managerial role and quite a bit sexists ---she vilifies her male colleagues as part of a PR campaign.

Sun, 23 Oct 2011 21:04:39 UTC | #883491

Go to: Why I refuse to debate with William Lane Craig

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All of this back and forth exchange between supporters of Craig and atheists is just a waste of effort.

We all know Santa Claus/The Tooth fairy/The Holy Ghost does not exist.

Sun, 23 Oct 2011 03:26:37 UTC | #883276

Go to: Why I refuse to debate with William Lane Craig

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hitchens_jnr: I meant publisher, not journals in my response. Sorry about the confusion. Of course, the same publisher can publish good and bad journals at the same time. Some journals by Blackwell are ranked at the top, others as simply ordinary.

Fri, 21 Oct 2011 23:39:14 UTC | #883045

Go to: Why I refuse to debate with William Lane Craig

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So are you then suggesting that highly distinguished publishing houses like "Oxford University Press", "Cambridge University Press", "Rutgers University Press", "Blackwell" are therefore not quality journals? Because those are precisely some of the reputable journals Craig has published his work in.

These journals are nothing special. Your list really exhaust all journals in which 90% of academics publish. I have published in some of them and this implies absolutely nothing about the quality of my publications. They publish and will publish nonsense of any sort as long as they can make money.

I can't help but think that the reason you don't have much respect for academic philosophy is probably because they publish views contrary to your own. If all the articles that were published in journals were views and ideas that you already agreed with I wonder if you would then complain about philosophy.

This is your guess and it is wrong. You are entitled to think foolish ideas, but please do not ascribe them to me.

And you're wrong about Grayling and Dennet. These people have made their reputation precisely through their academic work. Simply publishing a popular book does not make you reputable. They have to influence academia in some manner. The same is true for Craig. He has gained prominence for his work on the Kalam Cosmological Argument. In actual reality, to say that Craig has at least 33 articles on JSTOR is a massive understatement. His Kalam Cosmological Argument alone has garnered more attention in professional journals of philosophy than any other contemporary argument for God's existence, including those by the very famous philosopher of religion, Alvin Plantinga.

Attention to a specific issue says nothing about its quality. Vast numbers of theologians attract each other's attention and academics publish postmodernist nonsense, which is widely cited in their own field. This says absolutely nothing about quality. It seems that you confuse popularity or authority with truth and quality. WC Kalam argument is utter bullshit and any journal or academic institution that allows him to publish is a disgrace.

Fri, 21 Oct 2011 23:22:31 UTC | #883042

Go to: Why I refuse to debate with William Lane Craig

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Comment 36 by J.O. :

While I really despise WLC's point of view, you can't say he's not a philosopher, or that he's 'somehow' earned that reputation. Wikipedia makes it pretty clear that he has two PhDs - in philosophy and divinity - and I can see at least 33 journal articles with him as the sole author in JStor. That's a fair publication record. I don't think he could possibly be an idiot and get past the peer review of the analytic philosophy journals. Let's not use ad hominem. Take him seriously at his argument, and demolish it seriously.

The fact that he has 33 journal articles published in philosophy journals tells more about the quality of these journals than about WLC's credibility. A lot of modern philosophy is a load of rubbish not much different from the postmodernist claptrap that Alan Sokal has exposed.

I am sorry , but I simply do not have much respect for modern academic philosophy/sociology. It lacks any rigor and objective standards of truth and veracity. People like Dennet and Grayling have earned their reputation through their popular books, not publications in any journals. Unlike in the physical sciences, writing layman's books is in fact the only way to be a useful and respectable philosopher.

Fri, 21 Oct 2011 00:44:09 UTC | #882716

Go to: Why I refuse to debate with William Lane Craig

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I issue a challenge to William Craig -- Come and debate with me at my regional university.

If you, William Craig, refuse to debate me then you are a coward and a disgrace for Christian apologetics. I will put an empty chair in the debating hall specially for you. You better turn up or I will debate you in absentia.

I am a junior atheist so I can afford to debate a moron.

Thu, 20 Oct 2011 12:17:18 UTC | #882390

Go to: 'You've got to find what you love,' Jobs says

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Steve Jobs is a remarkable businessman and entrepreneur. He harnessed the creative potential of engineers and scientists and headed a team responsible for the creation and marketing of a wide range of technological products. Although I have never owned or used any Apple products in my entire life, I like the fact that there exists this range of Apple gadgets that I could potentially play with, and which serve to diminish Microsoft's market power.

However, I think comparisons of Jobs with Leonardo da Vinci are misplaced and absurd. This sort of lionization is going over the top. Jobs deserves no more eulogy or cult following than ,say, the inventors of the MRI or the CAT scan (Godfrey Hounsfield). The fact that he is much more famous and wealthy should not distort any objective assessment of Job's legacy. Few of us would use sheer popularity as a criterion for intrinsic worth. (After all, Lady Gaga probably has more fans than Beethoven and this does not imply that Beethoven's music is somehow less worthy.)

Tue, 11 Oct 2011 06:08:20 UTC | #879669

Go to: Canadians losing faith in religion

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As for unhappy children it wouldn't surprise me that two parent households yield more happy children. I don't see how it follows that it is therefor always immoral to ever break up a marriage.

I never said that. Again you are creating straw-man. I never said divorce is bad. Could you please not make assumptions about thing I never said!!!?? Divorce is a symptom that something is wrong. The root-cause is promiscuity in my opinion, but I admit that I have not conducted a research program to determine everything rigorously.

The point of my remark was not to argue that promiscuity is bad (perhaps it is not and we are all going to be much happier if we have sex with a different partner everyday!!!!), but to point out that many Quebec people are atheists for the wrong reasons (They want to be promiscuous and religion is officially against promiscuity. Of course, the church is an evil institution that rapes children and then has the insolence to talk about the "evils" of premarital sex. This was not the point of my remark though.)

Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:22:03 UTC | #873189