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Go to: Will your kid be taught that climate change is a hoax?

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The 90% CO2 doubling (since pre-industrial times) that has occured till now is going to becoming 100% by...2055. We're going to have 450 ppmv atleast by the end of this century...average temperatures may rise between 4-6 degrees. My grandchildren might be in school around then...just starting university. Perhaps in Europe, where the ceasing of the gulf-stream would have caused a perpetual cold season. This ofcourse, is under BAU...what will people be taught in their classrooms two to three generations from now? That their fore-fathers left their legacy for dead?

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 07:52:15 UTC | #937634

Go to: Cardinal Pell-"Jews intellectually and morally inferior"

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@huzonfurst Ahahaha, oh my gosh, that's embarrasing! That was a rather nice way of pointing out my...repeated...mistake. Thank you. Hope it doesn't ruin the weight of the argument :P

Tue, 17 Apr 2012 23:03:21 UTC | #935347

Go to: Cardinal Pell-"Jews intellectually and morally inferior"

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@RobertJames Excellent point!

I'd also like to add that even the 2000+ year-old Jews that Pell talks about must have been quite intelligent, specifically because a lot of them were sheppards or farmers. I'd think being a sheppard required a lot of training and skill, especially back in the day. I mean, there weren't any anti-biotics or a government issued "food guide" for the animals. It must have taken a lot of attention and organization to be a sheppard. Also, before the advent of numerical systems, wasn't it sheppards who came up with the idea of measuring their herd with a stock of rocks and to determine if there had been a change in number based on the number of rocks in excess of the number of animals? By no means are sheppards limited to being "clever" (as Pell suggests in the debate), they were freaking smart! Poor maybe, but that was most certainly due to the political and economic dynamics of the time, which were outside the control of most Jews regardless of intellectual prowess.

As for current day Jews worldwide, really like how you put it:

           How many more ground breaking scientific theories must they produce, how many more symphonies, novels and songs must they write before we stop hearing this kind of thing?

Sun, 15 Apr 2012 18:30:39 UTC | #934888

Go to: Trouble in paradise: Maldives and Islamic extremism

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The Bamiyan Buddha bombings truly do echo in this latest attack. Mohamed Nasheed has been quoted as saying "If I leave the whole country will go to the dogs...I'm afraid I can't do that." Well, the dogs are out. Nasheed is truly a very kind and sensible man. One of my favourite journalists, Mark Lynas, is his environmental advisor. Nasheed has been at the forefront of climate change issues. He is truly a man to be respected if one cares about biodiversity and conservation. This is not only an attack on buddhism, but also a slap in the face of the democracy that Nasheed helped build so gracefully in his country.

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 17:02:30 UTC | #922106

Go to: Molecular quagmire - cancer just got more complicated

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@Quine Very true. I think doctors are to biology what engineers are to physics; application, application, no novel insight (unless we look at the occasional doctor or engineer who decides to take a step up). It's surprising to see in the vast majority of medical literature that MDs will use the word 'resistance' but never mention 'evolution' or 'natural selection' when discussing topics such as the cline of virulence among bacteria.

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 16:48:42 UTC | #922105

Go to: Secular humanists on the real planet of the apes

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But social animals are not altruists. Nor are they strict individualists. They are nepotists. As a rule social animals, like wolves, deer, humans and chimps, show favoritism to their relatives and friends and allies, with little or no concern for members of their own species with whom they have no close connection. Abrahamic monotheism insists on the brotherhood of man under the fatherhood of God. Darwinism insists at best on the distant cousinhood of humanity.

Okay, that is a good point...but there is scope to comment on this further. The reason other social animals don't care for their species past close relatives is because they are only in contact with close relatives! Humans, on the other hand, have been able to connect with people across the world. A Somailian child crying in front of a camera is essentially communicating with us when we see him/her on television. We humans have an advanced sense of community that is global (not all humans, but a large number of us). Yes, for a lot of people it might be a fake sense of connectivity because they have been stuck with biased media or just find it too hard to step out of their frame of mind -- caught too deep in their luxurious lifestyle. However, we still have the potential to care for our species as a whole while being consistent with Darwinian evolution.

Wed, 24 Aug 2011 03:59:54 UTC | #863623

Go to: Molecular quagmire - cancer just got more complicated

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@Misfire, The Emperor of All Maladies sounds familiar...I should check it out :) Thanks!

Wed, 24 Aug 2011 03:29:15 UTC | #863615

Go to: Molecular quagmire - cancer just got more complicated

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Misfire, yeah, I can understand where you're coming from. I'm not a scientist (yet) either, so my initial reaction to the story was downward, visceral lurch. But scientists really are a lot more on top of this stuff than you and I could really grasp with our limited understanding. However, I would encourage you to maybe read into 'The Hallmarks of Cancer' by Doctors Hanahan and Weinberg. I am currently reading them slowly (researching terms and concepts that I don't understand). The links are available in the article as the two papers are referenced in it. It's been an enlightening read so far.

Sun, 21 Aug 2011 04:59:14 UTC | #862906

Go to: Ungodly Discipline

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This is disgraceful. We often acknowledge that Islam is the most dangerous religion, but Christianity obviously has the potential to be equally dangerous.

"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.” – Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion

The parents killed their adopted daughter in the name of this very god.

Thu, 18 Aug 2011 17:32:37 UTC | #862254

Go to: Why we perhaps shouldn't ban sharia law

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It's pointless to ban Sharia law. If any religious practice involves activity contrary to the law of the land legal action may be taken, regardless.

Mjs31, I completely understand your point and, to be honest, if the world were a tad bit more fair I would think the same way. My only concern is that terms such as "Sharia" (or any term for a religion based law) allow the fundamentalists to defend themselves more heavily when faced with charges (for example murder (by stoning or something)). It is wishful thinking to assume that the judge will not take religion into account within a secular society. With the added fear of criticizing islam in public, it is more than hypothetical that a person could be beaten to a pulp and the culprit acquited of the charges on the basis of religious freedom. This would be more likely in a domestic violence scenario. Again, I completely agree with you on a practical level, but in the legal world terms matter.

Just recently I was reading an article here on that talked about a man taking pictures in a public square in Toronto. He just happened to be clicking photos while a bunch of burqa-clad women were walking through the square. They literally assaulted him for taking pictures of them! I don't think the Quran says anything about photos, but still the cops nearby didn't protect him because apparently they had to protect the women's religious rights even though he had the right to take pictures in public. This kind of crap happens, and frankly its Bs. Instead of allowing Sharia law in the US, they should completely keep any religion out of the constitution. It should be equally illegal for christianity, judaism, islam, and hinduism etc. to have any influence on the constitution or any localized establishment of law.

Thu, 18 Aug 2011 16:28:47 UTC | #862235

Go to: Spirituality: It’s only human

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That thing about not being fully human...I've faced that accusation in an intimate relationship with a so called "strong christian". It makes no sense. I was told to seek god more eagerly...that just brought me one step closer to atheism on an emotional level. Being both a person of science and an artist, I can testify to what Kirby has written. Spirituality is not about connecting with an invisible celestial father (it's funny, I thought not seeing your father was a sign of a broken household). In fact, religious folk should ask themselves this question: How is disconnecting from your human body and connecting to a non-human being make you more human?

As embarrasing as it might be, I must admit I once commited the fallacy that Kirby talks about. But that's what makes it so embarrasing, I decieved myself. One of the religious's greatest follies is the deception of others...but the greatest folly is the deception of oneself -- I admit that's not my own idea, I just forget where I read a quote along those lines. It is more human to be connected with your body. Deep self-awareness combined with an awareness of what's around you is a reasonably aquirable catalyst to great spiritual experiences -- and I mean that in the scientific sense of the word; not the twisted definition adopted by stubborn apologists.

Thu, 18 Aug 2011 04:58:45 UTC | #862031

Go to: You have to “like” lots of things to fight against one big “dislike”

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Mr. Abgottspon is a brave man, he absolutely deserves our vote. I think a solid community for atheists is something that needs to be worked towards more and more. We should be very grateful for organizations like Atheist Alliance and RDF (and also smaller communities like TheThinkingAtheist and The Atheist Experience) for providing the kind of support they are. As atheists we should continue to strive for a bigger, stronger and more prominent community.

I wish Mr. Agbottspon the best of luck.

Tue, 16 Aug 2011 20:04:33 UTC | #861663

Go to: What *more* can we atheists do?

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Someone important whose name I can't remember, sorry I read this a long time ago, once said something along the lines of the following:

I tried all my life to change the world. But maybe if I'd changed myself I could have changed my community. My community could maybe change the nation...and the nation might change the world.

The fact that you are an atheist and that you maintain a scientific temprament in your life is a great deal in itself. There's a lot of people like you, and we're all here to support eachother. We have now formed a community :) Atheists have the largest growth figures as a community in the United States. We already have countries like Sweden, where 85% of the poplulation is atheist/agnostic. The atheist movement is still in its early stages. Just keep up the fight, keep going out there and encouraging reason little by little. Human thought has influenced our sociological evolution in the past. I'm optimistic that in time we'll see our species evolve to no longer need wishy-washy explanations of the universe -- we will no longer be asking "why" does everything exist because, when we know "how", the "why" question seems to become more and more unimportant.

Best of luck in your endeavors.

Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:09:33 UTC | #861375

Go to: Rick Perry’s Unanswered Prayers

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This is hilarious! I can already see the Westborough signs up and yelling -- "God isn't listening cuz you're sinners! Fag enablers be in your midsts!" To those of us on, this is just a matter of "see! there's no god!" but to the mass of religious nut-jobs its become a question of "why God isn't listening".

I cringe when I ponder what the discourse might be like if Perry were to become president. "My fellow Americans, have no fear! Our national debt shall be gone soon! I have written a strongly worded letter the lord our God requesting that he prepone the return of Jesus!" Ha!

As strange and silly as that sounds, it is no less bizzare and insane than what Perry has been up to lately. Pray for rain?! This guy belongs in the Vatican.

Mon, 15 Aug 2011 05:49:00 UTC | #861165

Go to: Muslim Woman Assaults Photographer, Toronto Police Say It's OK

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Here's a thought provoking question: Would the response by authorities have been the same if the religious women were from a different religion? Well, first off, would this event even take place if there were no Islamic folk in the square? I get a feeling this had something to do with the fear of questioning Islam in public, not religion in general.

Mon, 15 Aug 2011 04:50:36 UTC | #861155

Go to: Texas textbook supplement hearings: July 2011

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"Faith is the conviction of things not seen" says the reverend.

Her support for the teaching of evolution despite her religious beliefs can be appreciated greatly. But religions, as Sam Harris puts it, are failed sciences. They were all formed in an attempt to understand the world around us or to correct previous understandings of the world around us. Nevertheless, none were formed on the basis of scientific understanding. Modern science should not be set aside as dealing with something different from what religion and faith deals with. Modern science marks our ultimate success in understanding the world around us. It is, in fact, the result of the same curiosity that spawned religions. So, I would add to what the reverend said - Faith is the conviction of things not seen before they were made visible. What our ancestors did not see was not something that was invisible, it was something too small to be visible or too far away to be observed in full detail or too inaccessible to explore. We no longer need to think that a god split the seas for example; it was plate tectonics.

The reverend also says that it is the fault of religious institutions if children don't know god. Instead, I'd say it is the fault of religious institutions that children think they "know" god at all. They should be aware of the many types of gods and the religions that follow, but a child shouldn't be endoctrinated from the beginning to believe that he/she is in an intimate relationship with Jesus. This can be quite literally be called mass schizophrenia.

Mon, 15 Aug 2011 04:25:33 UTC | #861149

Go to: Why Dawkins's case against religion creaks at every joint

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I will look into it. Thanks again!

Sat, 13 Aug 2011 18:19:58 UTC | #860760

Go to: Ask Sam Harris Anything #2

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This is a truly comforting set of insights on life as we see it. I love being able to explain more and more about my existence and my relationships with others and the world around me in scientific terms. I think that even as atheists we have the same need for comfort as believers. The only difference is that religious believers turn to myths and absurd doctrines for that comfort whereas non-believers or atheists turn to science with the aid of people like Sam Harris.

Sat, 13 Aug 2011 18:16:52 UTC | #860759

Go to: Rick Perry and the scandal of prayer

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During his prayer rally, Perry said something to the effect of "Lord, we hope you will bring wisdom to our President." Is he trying to say that Obama is some sort of idiot? I'm not saying that Obama is doing a great job, but I will accept that the nation was pretty much in the dumps when it was handed to him and an idealistic young President can't be blamed completely for making promises he's finding hard to fulfill in the face of the current crisis. On the other hand, Perry might need to be bestowed some wisdom, which he won't find sitting at a wooden bench every sunday reading a 2000 year old fiction novel before a highly regarded man with a degree in Factless History (Theology). Amen!

Thu, 11 Aug 2011 23:52:07 UTC | #860258

Go to: Pregnant plesiosaur with giant foetus hints at caring parents

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Another gap filled! One less gap to worship (ref: The God Delusion - "The Worship of Gaps"). On a scientific note, this is a very interesting find. Even though it's not so darastic, it definitely gives a reassuring pat on the back to the Theory (Fact) of Evolution.

Thu, 11 Aug 2011 23:36:15 UTC | #860251

Go to: 20 Christian Academics Speaking About God

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...Homo Divinus??? It's gone from being ignorant to biology to defiling it.

Thu, 11 Aug 2011 23:27:08 UTC | #860249

Go to: 20 Christian Academics Speaking About God

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11-25, 17, and 20 in my opinion are the least concerning because their careers seem to revolve around the study of myths. Especially the apologists who are basically theologians with a law degree (not an actual law degree, they are simply advocates for the "Charter of Our Invisible Sky-Daddy" ha!). I'm more concerned about the scientists with respectable careers, presumably highly educated, who exhibit minimal scientific temprament and intertwine a philosophical debate with a scientific debate. Dinesh D'souza is the most amusing of the lot. He says that we must have been the result of a life-giver giving breath to lesser primates so that we had a soul capable of inventing...I have a suggestion for him and anyone else like him - go watch a documentary on the new caledonian crow. This avian creature exhibits the power to create tools to solve problems reminescent of our own abilities. To me that is one of the most beautiful reminders of our connection to other animals.

The archbishop of canterbury surprised me though, he's atleast sensible in the way he talks.

Also, Brian Leftow just confuses me...what is he even trying to say? "Just because you have spoken, god is not different from the way he always was" or something to that effect - though I wouldn't know the effect because he's just saying words...words that have no meaning. Anyone else confused by Leftow?

Thu, 11 Aug 2011 22:34:48 UTC | #860231

Go to: The Church's role in aftermath of terrorist attacks in Norway

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Did Hitchens say that? I think that everyone needs a sense of community and that's what a lot of prominent atheists are doing - giving people a central place to share their experiences as free thinkers. I myself am very fond of the TheThinkingAtheist. This website itself also does the same. I think what Hitchens might have been getting at is that the whole idea of a congregation coming together so that they can all be accountable to "the head" (God) is actually a part of what makes religion what it is. As atheists, I think Hitchens meant to say, is that we shouldn't have our equivalent of sunday service. But yes, ofcourse we can do a lot of things through media and public events (lectures, seminars, galleries, even parties) that are aimed at simply getting a bunch of free thinkers together. These are actually more than rare in the US and Canada.

Thu, 11 Aug 2011 20:46:54 UTC | #860194

Go to: Salvation wear for the atheist

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Okay! I like most of the list for atheist attire, but number 4? Seriously? Love of sin and satan? Being atheist should mean that you not only deny the existence of a God but also Satan because God is said to have created Satan...theology aside, being an atheist doesn't mean you have to be a sexual perv. Love is a natural aspect of being human, let's enjoy that! Something tells me that branding atheists with perversity isn't helping our case!

Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:01:15 UTC | #859852

Go to: Why Dawkins's case against religion creaks at every joint

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DavidMcC, your last comment was very enlightening! That is a very interesting hypothesis, certainly worth spending generous amounts of time exploring. I'll make that a project alongside school :) Again, dunno what my ideas will be like 5 years from now but these kinds of discussions really help. I will be honest, I never even considered gravity in pondering how we could ever psychologically fathom a universe very different from ours. Gravity could be a sort of "link"...makes me more optimistic then. That is truly enlightening. Thanks!

Wed, 10 Aug 2011 20:51:15 UTC | #859849

Go to: Why Dawkins's case against religion creaks at every joint

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DavidMcC, yes, I have read into quite a few hypotheses as to how our universe, the one that gives rise to us, began. I am quite young, so I am yet to dive into and understand the depths of all these hypotheses. I can't say if 5 years from now I'll have the same ideas...that said though, I'd like to correct you (and I can't blame you because you haven't seen the program) but Hawkings talks about everything exploding from a central point and outwards...maybe I'm mistaken in interpretting your comment, but no he doesn't say that everything just "popped" into existence but exploded out and is still expanding. This expanding behaviour does lead me to think of the way cells expand and duplicate, so it makes me wonder if the whole daughter universe thing is plausible. But still, I don't know how possible it is for us to understand anything that exists outside or existed before our universe :( as sad as that is. We are bound to this universe by the sheer fact that it gives rise to us...we can't depart from it because we would not exist anywhere else. All scientific evidence in the history of the world has been through observations made within our universe...most of cosmolgy, I think, relies on electromagnetic waves coming in from outerspace...could waves from other universes even exist in ours? Could they reach us? Are there even waves in other universes? Our eyes will only percieve light coming in from our universe...that very elementary fact just makes me pessimistic as to the extent to which we can explore other universes. However, we have more than enough things to discover in our beautiful universe :)

Anyways, its great to have an intellectual conversation like this. Thanks again.

Tue, 09 Aug 2011 18:46:16 UTC | #859478

Go to: Rick Perry, Texas governor, speaks at "The Response", August 6, 2011

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Prayer is the biggest waste of time in the world...I mean, it's simply thinking, but when you're praying you're thinking nonsense and trying to influence events you have no control over. Or you might just be asking to be forgiven for being a bad's the deal, if you're a bad person, do something about it! As for Mr. Perry here, the time he's wasting holding this pathetic rally could be better spent actually doing something about the shipwreck of a country he's so proud of. Since the debt ceiling was raised a few days ago, the US has lost another 1 trillion dollar. Hallelujah...?

Tue, 09 Aug 2011 06:36:23 UTC | #859327

Go to: Building Blocks of DNA Found in Meteorites from Space

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This may be the closest to "alien life" that we've ever come to and probably an amazing source of evidence to the theory that life on earth came from elsewhere in the universe via meteorites. I am thoroughly excited as to what further research on the DNA will indicate.

Tue, 09 Aug 2011 02:14:39 UTC | #859313

Go to: Why Dawkins's case against religion creaks at every joint

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DavidMcC, you're right, I feel like I didn't word this properly amidst my frustration. I don't mean to say that we shouldn't think about what was "before", but I don't think there was anything that came "before" and I absolutely support progression as to a scientific explanation of how there can be "no before" to the universe. Hawkins talks about this in the Discovery Channel episode of Curiosity on ID. Thanks for the opinion :). I'm an aspiring biologist, the last thing I would want to do is suggest that scientific progress of any sort be halted.

Tue, 09 Aug 2011 01:58:50 UTC | #859310

Go to: Rick Perry, Texas governor, speaks at "The Response", August 6, 2011

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Every day billions of people around the world get into, in Perry's words, "a position of prayer" and indulge in the biggest waste of time on the planet - prayer. This whole rally was a giant prayer, hence a glorified waste of time. Shouldn't government officials spend time like this to tackle real problems? It's dispicable especially since their further crash of 1 trillion dollars in the matter of days after extending the debt ceiling!

Tue, 09 Aug 2011 01:51:08 UTC | #859307