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Go to: Religious conversation and the Socratic method

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I had a "crazy" patient come through the ER the other night. He told me about god and jesus and wanted to know if I knew I could live forever.

I asked him, "do I have a choice...I mean in the living forever part? What if I don't want to live forever?"

It was if I asked him if he knew I was from Mars. The look on his face said it all. He had never thought of that.

I know this doesn't answer your question per se but it is my approach. I can't actually tell anybody they're an idiot to their face, but I've learned to ask questions that show up their naive approach.

Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:29:32 UTC | #945840

Go to: Richard Dawkins & Lawrence Krauss Tribute to Christopher Hitchens - 2012 Global Atheist Convention

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I miss Hitch so much. I can't even imagine how Richard and other people who actually knew him must feel.

Keep posting his stuff. He is a true asset to...I was going to say atheism, but I will say humanity. He was a treasure and he is missed.

Sun, 27 May 2012 20:20:16 UTC | #943845

Go to: How the Web is killing faith

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This is a fantastic article. Not because it is so well written, or clever or anything...but because it is an exposure.

We need far more of this kind of thing on the internet. Richard is great at it and we need more of this kind of stuff from him, Dan Dennett and we need to keep posting the "best of Hitch". More of this kind of stuff is what we need to wake up the religionists. Well done!!

Fri, 25 May 2012 19:04:04 UTC | #943546

Go to: Ultra-Orthodox Jews Rally to Discuss Risks of Internet

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Oh, but this is the reason, the very reason, we can't get over it katy (quote 41).

As someone in the OP pointed out, "we need to learn to control ourselves" [when it comes to porn]. Sorry, but the internet is here to stay. Does it have a dark side, sure. Been on Facebook lately? This "meeting" is offensive to me as a woman because women, who you rightly point out, are probably MOST harmed by porn, meaning men are harmed by it, too, weren't ALLOWED TO ATTEND! That is about RELIGION.

Religion. Religion. Religion. If not for that, there wouldn't be a MEN ONLY rally where something important to EVERYONE was discussed.

I can't speak for others on this site but the men only nature of this rally was FAR more offensive to me than porn on the internet....mainly because I can control myself as to whether and what porn I choose to use. As women, they didn't get to choose to go to this rally or not. Again, THEY WEREN'T ALLOWED.

Wed, 23 May 2012 22:56:59 UTC | #943186

Go to: Moral Clarity and Richard Dawkins

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dh, let me try to clear up your confusion -- if I can.

You (theists or believers) start from the point that everything comes from god and so it follows that without god there can be no morals (or anything else fo that matter).

The atheist starts from the point that there is no god and therefore we have to explain where EVERYTHING came from, including our morals.

Richard has given an explanation brilliantly, using science, and he has written a few books that deal with it, mainly The Selfish Gene. Stephen Hawking and Lawrence Krauss have brilliantly explained how the universe most likely came into being using science.

When you start from a place that gives you a ready explanation, you need look no further and you scratch your head and wonder why anyone would try to use science to explan what is already explained -- at least from your point of view -- by god.

The atheist looks at your bible and sees the unbelieveable and unimaginable amoral actions of the central character, god, toward his "children." The atheist says, this can't be a basis for morality.

The reason Richard is attacked so often and quote mined so often is that he is their greatest fear made manifest. He explains why god isn't needed to build a firm foundation onto which one can build anything, including a soaring sky scraper and it will stand -- no need for god. Richard scares the hell out of these crazy* people and with good reason. He makes sense and they don't.

*crazy here is used to mean crazy about god

Tue, 22 May 2012 18:37:44 UTC | #942896

Go to: Debate: Can Atheists and Believers work together for the common good?

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Unfortunately we're going to have to try. Haven't listened to this yet, but this is my feeling. There are too many of them for us to be able to get anything useful done without them. Somehow we've got to get them to see that this is the better way forward because they're sure it isn't and that is a problem. A big problem.

Mon, 21 May 2012 17:39:40 UTC | #942628

Go to: The Myth of America’s Christian Heritage

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Comment 1 by gordon :

He also said: “The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over

But, this trick works so much better if your audience WANTS to believe it, too.

A lot of my fundamentalist relatives in Arkansas, Oklahoma and Texas all believe that being a christian nation is the only thing that makes the United States as wealthy and powerful as it is. I had a female relative comment as such recently at a family gathering. She said something like this: If we give the gays rights and we keep the separation of church and state, this country is going to piss god off and we're going to lose our status and become third world. Furthermore, I think this is already happening. God is already pissed off at this country.

They believe that keeping the US as a christian nation is the only thing keeping us from becoming third world, therefore when they hear things to support KEEPING the US as a god fearing christian country, they believe it whole heartedly. And, will fight to the death to keep it this way.

Mon, 14 May 2012 19:02:27 UTC | #941458

Go to: Human Societies Starting to Resemble Ant Colonies

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Sam Harris should like this. Another nail in the coffin of free will?

I recently visited a place on the planet where the ancient people who once populated it had built these massive mounds. Our guide explained that these had evidently been sacrificial altars upon which these ancient people left food, art work, and animals as sacrifices to their gods. They did look like massive ant hills and this need to sacrifice to a "higher" authority sure began to look a bit more "hard wired" into us as humans. It raises some interesting questions.

Sun, 06 May 2012 04:41:10 UTC | #940073

Go to: One in seven thinks end of world is coming

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We needed a good rough cut on the number of idiots in the world, so we did a quick survey...

Fri, 04 May 2012 19:17:28 UTC | #939731

Go to: Indonesian atheist faces long jail sentence for posting "God doesn't exist" on Facebook

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Jon Stewart had some right wing christian on his show this week and he (the xian) told a story about a little boy being grabbed up by the scruff of his neck by a teacher because he (the little boy) was praying over his lunch.**

He (I think his name was Barton) seemed outraged by this. I couldn't help but think that what he really wants is more like what is happening in this story in Indonesia. People that don't agree with him need to be hauled off to jail. Little kids that don't believe in his god need to be grabbed up by the scruff of the neck. I was very disappointed in Jon's responses and questions of this man. I know he was trying to be funny in some of what he said, but it wasn't funny. These kind of people are dangerous and no one hates America's first amendment and free speech more than these people because it keeps them from doing what has been done Indonesia.

**And, I've since seen some people have posted that this story isn't even true or at least was taken waaaay out of context.

Thu, 03 May 2012 21:26:34 UTC | #939442

Go to: Study: US College Students Advance Little Intellectually

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I have a friend who recently went back to college (in her 40s) and to cut expenses she took in two 20 something roommates. She told me they spend all evening, every evening except Friday and Saturday nights, glued to facebook. They run in the door, go to their rooms, put their flip-flops on, come running back into the living room, flip open their lap tops and get on facebook.

This is the new college student.

Tue, 01 May 2012 02:02:20 UTC | #938528

Go to: Richard Dawkins Has a Point, Your Eminence!

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Slap!

Well, I think that crying means a new atheist has just been born. Welcome to reality Michael J. Matt.

Just apologize to Richard before you start enjoying yourself. Thanks.

Sat, 28 Apr 2012 05:13:43 UTC | #937897

Go to: Richard Dawkins and Lawrence Krauss: Something from Nothing, at ANU (Canberra Australia)

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Great discussion. I really enjoyed it. I felt sorry for the poor catholic girl. I thought she was going to cry at one point. It must be tough to have believed in something your whole life -- been told it is true by your parents, the people who are supposed to love you and tell you the truth -- only to find out it is wholesale bullshit. People don't like it and they project that hurt and anger onto the people exposing it. In this case Richard and Lawrence.

I came to my atheistic beliefs on my own as a child (around 8) and I'm so thankful I did. I really don't know what it would be like to find out that everything I was taught as a child was BS. You have my sympathy young lady, but it is time to grow up.

Sun, 22 Apr 2012 21:04:28 UTC | #936518

Go to: Robert Wright promotes accommodationism, disses Dawkins

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Ok, I listened to this again to give it a fair hearing.

Point goes to Richard. Sorry Mr. Wright, you're just wrong on this one.

Fri, 30 Mar 2012 05:32:11 UTC | #931295

Go to: UP w/ Chris Hayes

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I, too, have long suspected that JFK wasn't religious but I don't know about being a full non-believer. It is certainly possible. I wish we could know one way or the other.

I really enjoyed this program. Everyone was good except the guy on the end was a bit incoherent in his views. I couldn't gather whether he was an atheist or a believer. The host was a bit annoying but I'm grateful he put together this group of people so that cancels that out somewhat.

I loved it when Richard called creationists "nut cases." GO Richard!!! Strident as ever my good man! Great job.

Mon, 26 Mar 2012 21:17:29 UTC | #930619

Go to: Can Religion Justify Bullying Children? by Sean Faircloth

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Comment 3 by aquilacane :

What is with then? why is that always used incorrectly? Is it a US thing?

I've been wondering the same thing. I'm seeing it more and more and no, as far as I know, it is just incorrect usage, not a US thing, at least I didn't get the memo.

Sat, 24 Mar 2012 22:48:53 UTC | #930268

Go to: Tennessee Passes ‘Monkey Bill’ To Teach The ‘Controversy’ On Evolution And Climate Science

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I would hope "the controversy" would enlighten some children, but unfortunately, if they go home to redneck parents, the crap part of what they're learning at school will be reinforced. Pity.

Thu, 22 Mar 2012 18:32:16 UTC | #929674

Go to: Technologically advanced, culturally backward

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There is a commercial playing right now in the states where a little boy (about 3?) is playing with his iphone. The voice over says, "do we really want to limit the iphone." I usually scream at the tv, YES! if it means a little boy is going to sit at his kitchen table and do nothing but stare at his phone. Am I the only one with this reaction to that commercial? I sure hope not. Otherwise we probably are doomed.

Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:13:59 UTC | #920900

Go to: 30 Renowned Writers Speaking About God

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This was a very moving piece. Seeing those people at the end stunned at what Christopher is saying was worth watching. Loved it! I truly hope he got through to a few of those knuckle heads.

Sun, 22 Jan 2012 19:38:52 UTC | #910759

Go to: Why Do So Many Have Trouble Believing In Evolution?

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I really wish they'd stop saying "believe in evolution." I don't have to believe in it for it to be true therefore no belief required. "Do you think evolution is true or not" is a far better question. And, they might get some slightly different poll numbers.

Thu, 19 Jan 2012 22:36:43 UTC | #909992

Go to: Israelis Facing a Seismic Rift Over Role of Women

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It is so scary to me that we are still dealing with this kind of thing in 2012. It is really a prime example of religion holding us back.

Mon, 16 Jan 2012 19:49:53 UTC | #908922

Go to: My attempt to rewrite the Ten Commandments

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I've enjoyed reading everyone's responses and couldn't help having the thought that this is WHY there's a god. Because, who is going to enforce the rules? However many you decide on. 2, 10 doesn't matter. I think C Hitchens had pointed out something like "don't be a pedophile" or some such rule astutely observing that there was no such prohibition in the original 10...but again, telling someone not to be a pedophile and then expecting them not to...I can begin to realize the frustration of the early citizens when their fellow citizens wouldn't behave. GOD is watching you and will punish you works pretty well for the masses.

Sat, 07 Jan 2012 15:37:49 UTC | #906250

Go to: War, Famine, Pestilence...Richard Dawkins - What Sort Of God...

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Keep up the good work Richard! You've got'em running scared!

Fri, 06 Jan 2012 23:33:39 UTC | #906090

Go to: Afterword from Lawrence Krauss' New Book - A Universe From Nothing

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This should be a great new book! Can't wait to read it.

Fri, 30 Dec 2011 20:32:29 UTC | #903868

Go to: Mr Deity and the Bang

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Hilarious!! They hit so many of my favorites I could barely keep up!

Tue, 29 Nov 2011 23:46:47 UTC | #894241

Go to: Air Force Academy adapts to pagans, druids, witches and Wiccans

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Unfortunately I think it is exactly the opposite my friend ZenDruid. I think this is an example of a con game. Next time the USAF is criticized about not being religious tolerant, they're all going to holler and go "but look at the 80,000 US smackaroos we just spent on religious tolerance!!" A shell game, at best.

Mon, 28 Nov 2011 22:19:58 UTC | #893997

Go to: Women & Islam: The rise and rise of the convert

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Let me just add this to what I said before about my sister marrying a muslim man...they live their lives in a very secular way. I think just like with catholics and jews, a lot of people convert to marry but don't really follow the "rules" from then on out. My sister was overweight by US standards and very nerdy and "bookish" and this relatively good looking man thought she was attractive. So what he was from Iran. I don't think an American man had asked her out in a decade! Anyway, he made her feel attractive and wanted. Most women need that.

As others have pointed out, I think it would be interesting to find out just how many people opt out once they convert or don't really mean anything by their conversion, i.e., just trying to fit in. Would be interesting but probably not as news-catchy.

Sun, 06 Nov 2011 19:06:53 UTC | #887949

Go to: Women & Islam: The rise and rise of the convert

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My sister converted to Islam because she married a Muslim. That could account for some of it. As for the others...one word: lonliness. I think strong, independent people discount the overwhelming feeling of need and lonliness that our western culture has left a lot of people with. It is not so much stupidity, although maybe a bit of naivete to go along with the lonliness and neediness to belong to something.

I don't know the answer to this. I feel very greatful that I can afford to live on my own without the need of a man to take care of me. I also feel that I'm a very strong willed and independent person and many many of the women that I know are very needful of having someone, anyone in their lives at all times. It is something I don't understand so I think it may have less to do with religion than we think.

In general, maybe it is part of the allure of religion. There's an invisible being there with you, watching over you, giving you someone to talk to 24/7/365. I think atheists discount the need of a lot of our fellow human beings to have "someone" in their lives.

Sun, 06 Nov 2011 15:26:29 UTC | #887883

Go to: Christopher Hitchens makes first public appearance in months

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If anything "natural" seems to be a "cure" for cancer this is it...doing what you love and having a strong will/reason to live. Keep fighting the good fight both against religion and against cancer, sir! We need you for at least 30 more years...at least!

Great to see you.

Mon, 10 Oct 2011 22:27:24 UTC | #879541

Go to: Troy Davis execution highlights witness unreliability

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This was an absolute tragedy. If I could leave this country (USA) right now, I would. I feel sick about it.

Thu, 22 Sep 2011 22:58:04 UTC | #874107