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Go to: Effect of the concept of hell on children

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Comment 28 by stuhillman Actually, "effect" is just fine in the title. Although child abuse does have an affect on people later in life.

It originally was "Affect". I see the Mods are paying attention. :-)

Child abuse affects people later in life; it has an effect on them, such as a change in their affect. (/pedantmode)

Steve

Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:20:24 UTC | #950001

Go to: Effect of the concept of hell on children

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You have my compliments and respect for starting to think about this at your young age. I never had this fear, though I am the grandson of a Presbyterian minister, so I can only give you this observation: a "loving god" would not make it so easy to get put into an eternal barbeque pit, nor would he (or she) give punishment so out of proportion to the supposed offense. If the bible and all the "believers" can be wrong about god's loving nature, then they can be wrong about god's existence. Personally, I don't give it a second's thought.


BTW, look up the difference between "affect" and "effect"... your title should include the latter. Just saying. ;-)

Steve

Mon, 23 Jul 2012 13:14:03 UTC | #949888

Go to: Anti-Dawkins legislation

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"Poe's Law" illustrated nicely.
Steve

Sat, 21 Jul 2012 11:42:01 UTC | #949748

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:lol:
It was the link in the last line that cleared it up completely.
Not that Richard isn't dangerous!
Steve

Sat, 21 Jul 2012 03:20:08 UTC | #949713

Go to: Why smart people are stupid

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Comment 25 by aquilacane

I don't know math for shit...

Well, I don't know math from a hole in the ground! ;-)
Steve

Sat, 16 Jun 2012 13:40:04 UTC | #947698

Go to: Dawkins calls for 'Catholic' honesty

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All this talk about holes and donuts reminded me of an old Burl Ives song I heard when I was young.

Chorus:
When you walk the streets you'll have no cares
If you walk the lines and not the squares
As you go through life make this your goal
Watch the donut, not the hole.

Steve

Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:52:06 UTC | #946978

Go to: Nun's sex talk raises the Vatican's ire

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Comment 37 by Corylus

Groan. My kingdom for better proof-reading skillz.

Heh... I knew what you meant. ;-)
Steve

Mon, 11 Jun 2012 03:16:33 UTC | #946800

Go to: Dawkins calls for 'Catholic' honesty

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@Comment 150 by Steve Zara
I enjoyed that! But I think you are holding back on us. Say what you really mean. <_<
Steve

Mon, 11 Jun 2012 03:11:02 UTC | #946797

Go to: Louisiana lunacy: tens of millions to be spent on faith-based education

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Comment 16 by Nerevarine

Bible based MATH books?

They can start with the VALUE of Pi. :lol:
Steve

Sun, 10 Jun 2012 14:49:00 UTC | #946734

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Comment 1 by Leszek
The Chinese are carving the fossils out of the stone?

No, that would be Satan. ;-)
Steve

Sun, 10 Jun 2012 14:37:04 UTC | #946731

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Comment 29 by Corylus

Incidentally, I would not site (sic) her sexual history as evidence against her theories. Firstly, because I don't know for sure what this is; secondly because there is a history of books on sexuality written by the non-engaged (Marie Stopes wrote the informative Married Love while still a virgin); thirdly, because there is no direct logical link between 'experienced in' and 'correct about',,,

This touches on a fallacy of relevance (not committed by Corylus) which if I'm not mistaken is an "abusive argumentum ad hominem" (as a quick perusal of my old logic text seems to confirm). As desirable as it may be to have first-hand (Ooooh... no pun intended!) experience of some area of knowledge, it is not required to have expertise in that area. Many obstetrician/gynecologists are males and have never been pregnant or given birth, but nevertheless function well in those areas.
Steve

Fri, 08 Jun 2012 03:39:59 UTC | #946260

Go to: What Would Darwin Say to Today's Creationists?

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Comment 3 by glenister_m

Shouldn't it be:

Note that Transylvania University is a university in the US and NOT associated with vampires or Romania as you may first think.

Of course. But those namesake trees have had their genders surgically changed. ;-)
Steve

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 21:20:39 UTC | #945763

Go to: Why I watched a snake-handling pastor die for his faith

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Comment 64 by Quine

Also, the PBS science program NOVA did a show on venom with quite a bit of discussion on how different kinds work.

That was a fascinating show (how 'bout that dart-shooting snail?). Just preceding it was a "Nature" program devoted to the BLACK MAMBA. Just thank your stars you're not a sugar cane worker in Swaziland! Apart from the information content, these were two hours of good evidence refuting the existence of an all-powerful loving god.
Steve

Sun, 03 Jun 2012 14:36:59 UTC | #945315

Go to: Does this candidate have a prayer?

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Comment 16 by mordacious1

I don't understand what you guys are arguing about.

They're just arguing in their SPARE TIME! ;-)

BTW, "Candidate Without a Prayer" is a very intelligent and humorous book.
Steve

Sun, 03 Jun 2012 14:18:16 UTC | #945314

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Comment 1 by Greyman

Why is the most surprising thing about that statement that it was with his wife?

But now, 30 years on, she claims she NEVER DID IT.
:-(
Steve

Sun, 03 Jun 2012 02:59:31 UTC | #945247

Go to: Falling from Faith: When Pastors Stop Believing

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Comment 4 by Universeman

Anyone else here feel similarly? Or am I the only one here who has a soft place in my heart for that time when I was still able to believe in God, like a cherished childhood memory.

Listen to Christopher Hitchens's comparison of "Heaven" to North Korea.
The whole idea is only warm and fuzzy on the surface; if you think it through, it doesn't make sense, and actually is a pretty awful concept.
Steve

Sat, 02 Jun 2012 13:50:16 UTC | #945193

Go to: [Update] How Christian fundamentalists plan to teach genocide to schoolchildren

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Comment 12 by Vorlund

Time perhaps for some reverse psychology? Instead of 'there's probably no god' campaigns how about a 'This is what god wants campaign' with a list of horrors and explicit biblical reference under it. Then the punch line: Is this the god you worship?

A good supplementary text here would be Steve Wells's "DRUNK WITH BLOOD- God's killings in the Bible". I can recommend it as an instructive and amusing account of the madcap misadventures of the Load in his less benevolent moments... all too frequent... in the Good Book.

I noticed that Steve donated the contents of his "Skeptic's Annotated Bible, Qur’an, and Book of Mormon" to the SCRIPTURE PROJECT on the Project Reason web site. Well done!
Steve

Fri, 01 Jun 2012 22:12:40 UTC | #945093

Go to: Sixty Years of British Science Innovation

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Oh, yeah? Just wait 'til I finish my list of the scientific accomplishments that have come out of the muslim world in the last 60 years... <_<
Steve

Fri, 01 Jun 2012 11:13:01 UTC | #944942

Go to: Moody Bible Radio Discovers 'The Clergy Project' - interview with Teresa MacBain

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I keep Moody Radio on the last pre-set button on my car radio. When there's absolutely nothing of interest on NPR (rarely... or a fund drive) I go to Moody for some sure-fire entertainment. You can almost hear them making stuff up. The music is pretty dreadful, though.
Steve

Wed, 30 May 2012 03:03:17 UTC | #944366

Go to: Full Length Talk - 'How To Tell You're An Atheist'

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Today I was reminded of the main reason I'm an atheist. I saw on old friend (only in his 40s) and learned he was recently diagnosed with multiple myeloma. He has a 1-year-old son.
HASA DIGA EEBOWAI.
Steve

Fri, 25 May 2012 16:28:17 UTC | #943512

Go to: A Year After the Non-Apocalypse: Where Are They Now?

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Comment 3 by Macropus

I've tried googling Camping a few times since last October, just to see what excuse he's using now, but the news of his stroke might explain his silence (or perhaps he has finally given up trying to extract cryptic predictions from the rubbish contained in a book of 3rd century Chinese whispers?).

He's still around, apparently; praise the Load! A message from Harold was posted on his web site on April 27 (HERE). He's still trying to get others to drink his particular flavor of koolaid. (Sounds like he's lost a few gray cells, though!)
Steve

Thu, 24 May 2012 14:43:35 UTC | #943290

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Comment 8 by All About Meme
A nervous system using a 30 degree rule of thumb to a candle, as though it were the moon, will steer its moth, in a neat logarithmic spiral, into the flame.

Heh... yet another example of "intelligent design"! :lol:
Steve

Thu, 24 May 2012 14:14:59 UTC | #943284

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45 minutes well spent!
Steve

Thu, 24 May 2012 03:33:03 UTC | #943206

Go to: Ultra-Orthodox Jews Rally to Discuss Risks of Internet

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I'm afraid any time I hear of ultra-orthodox judaism, I immediately think of THIS. And IIRC, these aren't even ULTRA orthodox...
What do they expect will happen as a result of their rally? Can there be any doubt that YHWH ("Yud-Heh-Vav-Heh."... with the emphasis on the "heh") will shut teh internetz right down?
Steve

Wed, 23 May 2012 01:14:07 UTC | #943023

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Comment 15 by Net

steve, only the first one applies these days. i doubt very much that the other 4 meanings would be used let alone recognised by many, if any, people under 50 these days. words take on new meanings and lose older ones.

by the way, don we now our gay apparel, should really be rephrased into the politically correct don we now our gay-lesbian-bisexual-transgender apparel, or the hyper correct, if less euphonious, don we now our LGBT apparel. better watch out or the pc police will get you!

Now, that's a little too cynical for me. I tend to interpret words by their context, as I think QKat was suggesting. Remember the "Literal Family" on Saturday Night Live? "You guys kill me!" A little flexibility is a good thing. ;-)
Steve

Tue, 22 May 2012 03:01:02 UTC | #942744

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Comment 13 by Net

What are the two or more other meanings that the word "gay" has?

Google is your friend. Start HERE.
Steve

Tue, 22 May 2012 02:31:05 UTC | #942741

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@ Comment 10 by QuestioningKat...
Touche! (imagine the accent on that last "e")
"Liar" might be a little strong, but still... doesn't he know we can still sing "don we now our gay apparel" and have it mean the same as it always did?
Steve

Tue, 22 May 2012 01:56:48 UTC | #942735

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@ Comment 4 by Schrodinger's Cat...
By the time we've established that I don't have the faith, and I can't request it (per Matthew 7:7, Mark 11:24) because I don't "qualify", I suggest that the believer pray that I receive faith. SInce, as a believer, he or she has the "authority" to make such a request, it should be easy to overwhelm my doubt. I mean, how do I rate, as a mere non-believer, to resist the will of the Big Man? So far I have not been filled with the ho-lee spirit, and I consider these two verses to represent one of the essential lies of christianity. Is this not a testable hypothesis? ;-)
Steve

EDIT:

Comment 6 by QuestioningKat

Faith is...Pretending to know things you don't know.


Mark Twain SAID "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." It might be more correct to say "Faith is pretending to believe what you know ain't so."

Tue, 22 May 2012 00:52:45 UTC | #942716

Go to: UPDATED: Why I want all our children to read the King James Bible

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Comment 126 by xmaseveeve

Comment 64, consciousmind,

It gives stimula.

What, the spreadable cheese?

Surely, that's a laxative. ;-)

Comment 138 by pinball

We need our Hitchens and RDs but we also need the little men sewing the seeds

Seeds are sown, not sewn, unless one has a very fine needle. ^_^
Possibly that was the needle Jesus had in mind:

Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. -- Matthew 19:23-24, Mark 10:23-25
(Skeptic's Annotated Bible)

(/pedant mode)
Steve

Mon, 21 May 2012 14:05:46 UTC | #942611

Go to: Draining of world's aquifers feeds rising sea levels

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Comment 1 by cerad

Sounds like fountains of the deep causing a slow motion world wide flood. Once again we find the bible was correct.

Ahem... GENESIS 9:11.
And if it weren't true, THIS Republican from Illinois (face-palm) surely wouldn't repeat it.
Steve

Sun, 20 May 2012 23:03:16 UTC | #942519