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Go to: A brutal price still paid for daring to challenge faith

Sally Luxmoore's Avatar Jump to comment 11 by Sally Luxmoore

I don't know how Richard stands all this abuse. It must be thoroughly dispiriting at times.

Time for two very apt quotes from Bertrand Russell, thanks to the website -Positive Atheism's Big List:

The degree of one's emotion varies inversely with one's knowledge of the facts -- the less you know the hotter you get.

[-- Bertrand Russell (attributed: source unknown)]

The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there is no good evidence either way. Persecution is used in theology, not in arithmetic.

[-- Bertrand Russell, Unpopular Essays, "An Outline of Intellectual Rubbish" (1950), quoted from James A Haught, ed, 2000 Years of Disbelief]

Please be reminded, Richard, that there are a great many people supporting you. I count myself as one of those who have actually read and appreciated with gratitude all of your books. For me, the God Delusion was a delightful surprise addition to the canon, but not your defining work.

Don’t let the bastards grind you down!

Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:38:22 UTC | #920864

Go to: UPDATE: 3 days to stop Murdoch's media takeover

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The other tactic is to write to major advertisers telling them they should withdraw their support from the Murdoch press. It's already starting to happen, but public pressure would certainly help to influence their decisions and to speed up the process.

Tue, 05 Jul 2011 19:30:36 UTC | #846587

Go to: Who Wrote The Bible and Why It Matters

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I am looking forward to hearing what Bart Ehrman thinks of this latest discovery.

No one knows yet what's in these books.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if they turn out to contradict everything that Christians think they 'know' about Jesus?

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Tue, 29 Mar 2011 12:19:12 UTC | #608682

Go to: Humanist religious question census campaign launched

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This new slogan is better than the old one anyway. I never saw the point of putting "For God's sake"; it made no sense.

I shall certainly be ticking 'no religion' and I confidently expect many many others to do so as well.

Sun, 06 Mar 2011 14:55:09 UTC | #599371

Go to: The Real Cost Of Religious Faith

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link text This is another really good episode, with Jen Peeples and Tracie Harris. It's particularly interesting because it's the same caller as in Matt's case above. He starts off much the same way, but is completely bamboozled by them in a different style from Matt's. In my view, both are effective and valuable.

The entire episode is apparently archived on ►

Fri, 25 Feb 2011 20:36:43 UTC | #596189

Go to: The Real Cost Of Religious Faith

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BlockquoteComment 50 by yyarovyy Age of Earth = 4.54 billion years.... Don't really know where this guy on the show came up with the 3.5 billion years....

Maybe he was meaning LIFE on earth, which is about that old.

Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:34:07 UTC | #596108

Go to: The Real Cost Of Religious Faith

Sally Luxmoore's Avatar Jump to comment 47 by Sally Luxmoore

I too have been watching and listening to these people for ages. They are excellent, and I am a real fan of Matt Dillahunty. This is their facebook page: You can subscibe to their podcasts (I do) and then can see the full show. Ordinary Youtube links generally only involve excerpts.

Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:48:25 UTC | #596031

Go to: 'The God Delusion' revolutionized my life!

Sally Luxmoore's Avatar Jump to comment 85 by Sally Luxmoore

Hi Michael.

Congratulations for the independence and strength of mind that you have shown thus far. I agree with those who are advocating not sticking your neck out too far whilst you are still at High school. I would say concentrate now on getting into a good University / College and then go ahead and join the freethinkers or sceptical student alliance groups etc.

In the meantime,

Re Comment 82 by (the obviously dismayed Christian) BenjaminJoseph.

It would certainly be advisable to read Paula Kirby's excellent reviews of some of Richard's 'fleas' before wasting any time and money on books such as "The Dawkins Delusion?" by Alistair and Joanna McGrath.

link to Paula's article
You can get a flavour of the creepy and ineffective style of argument used by Alistair McGrath if you look him up in the videos on this site or on you tube.

As for books, I think the suggestions so far have been very good. I would add one more (of the sort that is easy to dip into) - "50 voices of Disbelief - why we are atheists", edited by Russell Blackford.

Good luck for the future!

Thu, 27 Jan 2011 00:20:28 UTC | #584607

Go to: Tory chief Baroness Warsi attacks 'bigotry' against Muslims

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Ah- A response from Norman Tebbit. This may be the first time that I've ever found myself in agreement with him. I note too that he includes atheists in his list of those maligned by muslims.

Norman Tebbit:

" Baroness Warsi should think twice before accusing Christians of bigotry.

Had Baroness Warsi sought my advice, I would have counselled her not to make the speech which has been trailed in The Daily Telegraph today. I would have told her that the Muslim faith was not discussed over the dinner tables of England, nor in the saloon bars, before large numbers of Muslims came here to our country. Then I would have told her to go to our Christian churches and listen to what was said about her religion and those who practise it, then to the Mosques to hear what is said in some of them about the Christian faith and those who practise it (or about Buddhists, Jews, or even those who have no faith at all). After that, I would say, she might consider who is in need of her homilies on prejudice. Until then a period of silence from the Baroness might not come amiss. "

Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:33:05 UTC | #581382

Go to: Tory chief Baroness Warsi attacks 'bigotry' against Muslims

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What do her fellow Tories think of her opinions? I would not imagine that many would agree with her.

Wonder if she'll be having a little chat with the whips soon, or whether this is an attempt to curry (sorry, but I like that pun) favour with Muslims.

If so, judging by the rescued comments that Richard has provided, I would say that this has backfired somewhat.

Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:18:21 UTC | #581372

Go to: An amusingly offended clergyman

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I prefer "Heathens' Greetings", which is what I put in my cards this Christmas...

If this chap can get so worked up over such a trivial matter then he's going to find the continued decline of his particular myth very difficult to deal with.

Here's hoping that this year's census gives him a bit more to feed his apoplexy.

Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:55:06 UTC | #578423

Go to: Clinton John Dawkins

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My thoughts are with you and your family, Richard. As I learnt when my own father died, no matter how old someone is or how predictable the end might be, it's still a sad shock when it happens. He sounds like a good man and a wonderful father.

Thu, 09 Dec 2010 01:38:20 UTC | #560477

Go to: Druidry to be classed as religion by Charity Commission

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The archbishop of Canterbury is a druid.

Dr Williams described claims of paganism as "offensive"

Criticising such rubbish is of course always 'offensive'. However, stupid is stupid and we should all continue to say so.

Sat, 02 Oct 2010 20:36:03 UTC | #528204

Go to: Atheists excel in religious knowledge

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Got 93%. I evidentally failed to set my alarm for the first great awakening. (Oops!) Must be still asleep, because I missed all the others too.

What do they do in those megachurches, if people still don't know their own religions?

I wonder how shocked those catholics who don't know about transubstantiation would be if they found out that they've been cannibalistic without realising it.

Tue, 28 Sep 2010 16:42:08 UTC | #526290

Go to: Let’s make a DVD of the London rally against the Pope:

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Comment 47 by Bala

Did any news channel broadcast an aerial shot of the protest?

Well, we were certainly trailed all the way by circling helicopters, so I'm sure someone did - even if it was only Special Branch!

No video from me, sorry - I'm one of the few people in this country (or so it seems sometimes) who doesn't own a video camera.

Wed, 22 Sep 2010 04:17:39 UTC | #523141

Go to: Pat Condell - The Pope needs a miracle

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It's not straight comedy, it's polemic, with plenty of irony and satire. Therefore lots of people don't get it.

Sometimes I think you have to be English to get irony - but then I remember the Simpsons!

For me, his cheerful rants are like a breath of fresh air. I think it is because he takes what is otherwise an amorphous rage and fashions it into ascerbic wit. I like him and think he's very intelligent, but I suppose he's an acquired taste.

Mon, 20 Sep 2010 16:54:49 UTC | #522058

Go to: Religious film - Christmas with a Capital C

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Yeeeuch! There's another one to miss.

Well, now we know where the pope got his idea about the UK abolishing Christmas...

I think the entire country (Catholics included) responded with bafflement to that idiotic remark of his.

Mon, 20 Sep 2010 16:20:27 UTC | #522040

Go to: Malcolm Tucker would have been proud. Jesus would not.

Sally Luxmoore's Avatar Jump to comment 50 by Sally Luxmoore

Great stuff, Paula, as usual!

My complaint to the BBC, just sent.

"In the BBC's coverage of the Pope's recent visit to the UK, commentators and newsreaders have referred to "miracles" as if these were actual facts. The insertion of that wonderful word, "alleged" is called for when discussing such ridiculous and scientifically inaccurate concepts.

The BBC is displaying bias by its failure to distance itself from these minority beliefs, which, like all such beliefs fly in the face of evidence and reason.

I have been disappointed in general by the fawning and uncritical coverage of the visit.

How about a programme based on the book, the Case of the Pope, by Geoffrey Robertson, Q.C. ?

Thank you for reading this email."

Sun, 19 Sep 2010 23:25:09 UTC | #521576

Go to: UPDATED: Ratzinger is an enemy of humanity

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Comment 21 by submoron: Superb stuff Richard! If anyone's interested, the German term for Ratzi is "Der Heuchler"!

I haven’t seen any response to this interesting comment. Perhaps it’s because Submoron assumes our grasp of German to be better than it is. For the benefit of those (like me, despite rusty A’ Level German) who had to look it up, here are the English equivalents.

Heuchler {m}: shammer chadband hypocrite simulator pretender dissembler dissimulator sham [person] canter of the breast fraud [hypocrite

Updated: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 22:59:36 UTC | #521565

Go to: [UPDATED VIDEO] Richard Dawkins at Protest the Pope Rally in London Sept 2010

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Wonderful to see this again. I was there, right up close and what the recording does not catch are the roars of approval extending the full length of Whitehall in both directions and echoing off the buildings alongside. It was a great atmosphere and cathartic to hear such wonderful speeches. Geoffrey Robertson's speech was also most impressive and also received similar responses from the crowd.

Disappointing coverage from the BBC, though. I couldn't believe that the 'rolling' news station, BBC News 24, effectively gave up reporting the news and instead just had a live feed from the vigil. What a cop-out.

Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:52:12 UTC | #520941

Go to: How can anyone fall for such transparent dishonesty?

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Yes, there really are people who are that gullible and that stupid. You have been privileged, Richard, to have spent almost your entire working life surrounded by intelligent people!

This calls for some Bertrand Russell quotes, I think. (From: )

"It has been said that man is a rational animal. All my life I have been searching for evidence which could support this." -- from "An Outline of Intellectual Rubbish" in the collection, Unpopular Essays

"Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do."

"The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence that it is not utterly absurd; indeed, in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible." Christian Ethics -- from Marriage and Morals (1950), quoted from James A Haught, ed, 2000 Years of Disbelief

"If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it's still a foolish thing."

Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:42:00 UTC | #520263

Go to: Calling all Pope Protestors

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I agree Paula. It struck me as very sinister.

I'd like to stick a huge black white and red banner saying "Gott Mit Uns" on the back of the popemobile.

If any media representatives approach marchers on the subject, perhaps they should suggest that Hitler's moustache, vegetarianism or love of his dogs were the real causes of his vile actions... More succinctly, pointing out that the vast majority of his army were either Catholic or Lutheran would make a good soundbite.

Child rape and condoms for Africa will be my focus, with maybe some vatican mockery thrown in. I think I have recruited my son to help me wave banners and will be happy to share spares with anyone nearby if they're interested!

Updated: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 23:13:08 UTC | #519467

Go to: Posters for the protests against the pope.

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I think some of the comments above are ignoring the fact that Richard and the Hitch were not specifically advocating rushing up to the pope and clapping him in irons (much though we may all enjoy the thought) but were seeking to examine a possible case against him. Geoffrey Robertson QC has now done that, so I think it is probably better to let his little book do its stuff without referring to it in a way that might trivialise it.

So I'm agreeing that it's better not to use the handcuffs etc, though it was quite fun thinking about it.

Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:34:13 UTC | #517676

Go to: Happy Birthday Richard Dawkins!

Sally Luxmoore's Avatar Jump to comment 47 by Sally Luxmoore

Yes, Happy Birthday, Richard.
- And I hope you have many many happy unbirthdays as well!

Fri, 26 Mar 2010 17:55:00 UTC | #452646

Go to: Biblical scholar's date for rapture: May 21, 2011

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Since they won't be needing their property and worldly goods when they go, is there anywhere the rest of us can sign up for them? I'd be happy to offer to relieve them of such inconsequential things.

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 23:52:00 UTC | #427878

Go to: Lawrence Krauss blasphemes Our Lord

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At about the same time, Dr. Krauss debated me on live national TV on the popular program, The O’Reilly Factor, on the Fox Network.
This is precisely why Richard is right not to debate creationists. Lawrence Krauss made a mistake in doing this. As Richard's Aussie friend said, "That would look great on your CV, not so good on mine".

Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:57:00 UTC | #426833

Go to: The Atheist's Guide to Christmas

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Boy, I am SO impressed by this young woman!
To read and speak so well in English (not her first language) and to manage to be so incisive and witty at the same time, is a fantastic achievement.
She is also doing good charitable work in promoting this book and thereby ensuring that more money goes to the Terence Higgins Trust.

Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:00:00 UTC | #425867

Go to: A Christmas Offering! - Jeeves and the Family Tree

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Comment #444280 by Richard Dawkins

I have a suggestion... If, as seems likely from my own quick attempt at an internet search, it is not possible to find the 1960's BBC version on VHS or DVD, it is possible to ask the BFI for a special screening.
I am a lapsed member and there was an arrangement that if you could come up with enough signatories who would also like to see the film, they would put on 'request screenings'. (I got to see the hilarious 'Midnight' with John Barrymore and Claudette Colbert that way, even though I still can't find it on DVD).
I'm sure a quick phone call to the BFI would reveal whether they still do this - and there would be no trouble getting up the numbers - just ask us lot!
Good luck.

Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:24:00 UTC | #425730

Go to: The great bus mystery

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I listened to it three times
Is that all? I can beat that! It goes very well with several games of Spider solitaire....

Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:02:00 UTC | #425728

Go to: The great bus mystery

Sally Luxmoore's Avatar Jump to comment 9 by Sally Luxmoore

Great stuff!
Richard - you're going to have to keep on at this. After all, PG Wodehouse wrote stacks of stories. You can't stop at only two... Regular instalments are the order of the day, I think.
Oh, and Happy Christmas. x

Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:03:00 UTC | #425717