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A respect for life is one thing all established religions have in common, but drawing scientific and political conclusions based on one religious philosophy over all others runs counter to the idea of separation of church and state.


Ignoring the contentious first part of the sentence, I do not see how a scientific conclusion can be based on one or other religious philosophy. Science is definitely taken out of context here.

Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:04:00 UTC | #202016

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One more poke in the eye for creationists.

Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:55:00 UTC | #202011

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As for the existence of a planet in which the elements abound in the quantities observed on planet earth, such a thing is again to be explained by science â€" though the science of astrophysics rather than the science of biology. The existence of the earth is part of a great unfolding process, which may or may not have begun with a Big Bang, and which contains many mysteries that physicists explore with ever increasing astonishment. Astrophysics has raised as many questions as it has answered. But they are scientific questions, to be solved by discovering the laws of motion that govern the observable changes at every level of the physical world, from galaxy to supernova, and from black hole to quark. The mystery that confronts us as we gaze upwards at the Milky Way, knowing that the myriad stars responsible for that smear of light are merely stars of a single galaxy, the galaxy that contains us, and that beyond its boundaries a myriad other galaxies slowly turn in space, some dying, some emerging, all forever inaccessible to us â€" this mystery does not call for a religious response. For it is a mystery that results from our partial knowledge and which can be solved only by further knowledge of the same kind â€" the knowledge that we call science.


I paraphrase the above excerpt as evidence that the article is verbose trivia and tripe:

The quantities of elements on planet earth are explained by astrophysics rather than biology. Astonishingly, the earth possibly began with a big bang. The questions raised by astrophysics are solved by discovering the laws of motion that govern changes in galaxies, supernova, black holes and quarks. We are contained in the Milky Way galaxy, beyond which are other inaccessable galaxies, a fact not requiring a religious response. We can gain knowledge through science.

Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:42:00 UTC | #201377

Go to: The Neanderthal Debate

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Did Neanderthals have a soul?

No, they were sold out by sapiens.

Sun, 04 May 2008 02:07:00 UTC | #166051

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Gosh. I must convert to religion right away.
.....er...er..which one?

Seriously, though, I would not return for a second childhood for this rubbish.

Sat, 03 May 2008 23:01:00 UTC | #166033

Go to: The Neanderthal Debate

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ofir
The black squirrel introduced to the UK is more aggressive, eats insects and worms in addition to nuts and can interbreed with the grey. In this situation the losers are grey males that have limited options either in attack or retreat.

Similar invasion of the UK by Romans, Vikings and Normans was successful in the development of Homo britannicus, but was not a completely peaceful process.

However, I do concede that no evidence was presented for warfare between Neanderthals and Homo sp.

Sat, 03 May 2008 21:39:00 UTC | #166020

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moderndaythomas
I take your point that we need to start with evidence.

Sat, 03 May 2008 21:37:00 UTC | #166018

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But there is no sign of a clash between Saps and Neanderthal in the same way.

The interview could have made this more clear. Absence of evidence, while it doesn't prove anything, is an important part of exposition.

It's also important not to project such things with so many creation minded people mis-interpreting the suppositions of scientists these days.


I will say whatever needs to be said. My posts are not governed by the stupid machinations of creationists.

Sat, 03 May 2008 18:46:00 UTC | #165987

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Comment #174813 by MPhil
This is truly sinister. Apparently it is a move to entrench faith as the international currency of religion. This will enable irrationality, stupidity and deception to be more easily tradeable. Baby tossing and genital mutilation will be compared as demonstrative expressions of religious fervour using a new international faith language. It is all the more dangerous because the pope and other religious leaders are feeling threatened by reason and science.

Sat, 03 May 2008 18:25:00 UTC | #165982

Go to: The Neanderthal Debate

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Dr Stringer describes the demise of Neanderthal as resulting from being passively marginalised by the quicker responsiveness and greater adaptability of humans to climatic and environmental changes.

However, modern humans are extremely competitive and have a propensity for sophisticated modes of attack. I find it difficult to believe that humans did not actively war against Neanderthals and other species that would have been competing for resources in the refugia.

Sat, 03 May 2008 17:45:00 UTC | #165973

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rian
I lost the tip of my finger in a wood planer, the tip was sucked off with the saw dust. My dermis also regrew with a dab of quaternary ammonium disinfectant and a band-aid.

Pixie dust eh. I wonder how it compares with saw dust. Surely a comparitive study of the effects of different kinds of dust on tissue regeneration is called for.

Fri, 02 May 2008 19:57:00 UTC | #165695

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kjmastaw, surely you jest.

However, if Dawkins is wrong, he and all atheists will be shown to be fools for an eternity.

Could you please be more specific? What will the fools be doing? Where will they be? How will the theists interact with atheists?

Fri, 02 May 2008 19:15:00 UTC | #165691

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Organisations such as Islam or Christianity that are based on unsubstantiated fundamentalist beliefs are wide open for criticism of the very direct kind.

I like Listening to Pat Cundell's biting satire. It is brash, refreshing and reminds me that the door of free speech is still open. If we cannot satirize each others beliefs we deny ouselves an important control on bad behaviour stemming from those beliefs.

Thu, 01 May 2008 20:29:00 UTC | #165337

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The Sumerian, Egyptian and Assyrian cultures were advanced in architecture, economics and political science. There would have been a bevy of scientists active before this and before the bronze age authors of the bible.

The Old Testement repeatedly emphasises the Israelites as the chosen people. As far as the bible is concerned religious faith of other cultures was irrelevant to science or anything else.

Tue, 29 Apr 2008 06:19:00 UTC | #163391

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Seeker of truth

What do we do with the scientists of old who claimed that they began their search for truth with the assumption that God exists, the bible is true, and that God had created an orderly universe that reveals himself?


What do we do with the scientists of old who began their search before the bible was written?

Tue, 29 Apr 2008 05:58:00 UTC | #163375

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Verily
You construct a reasonable hypothetical on evidence in law. When science is politicised, similar bias can creep into what should be a strictly rational enterprise. However, an unshakeable tenet of science is that the truth will out sooner or later. The same applies in law, sometimes with intervening wrongful imrisonment or worse.

In science, correct evidence and interpretations are also overlooked for various reasons. As long as science is fostered by the community, the truth will eventually shake out. If science and reason are ignored or denegrated, we are in deep, deep trouble.

Tue, 29 Apr 2008 04:51:00 UTC | #163349

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isenhand.
I think the agenda of RD.net is to replace religion and superstition with science and reason. I am an optimist. It will be successful.

Tue, 29 Apr 2008 04:15:00 UTC | #163344

Go to: Religion a figment of human imagination

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Comment #171826 by Andrew Stich :Really? I'm surprised by the distinction that many people here make between animals "and" humans, or "There is evidence for imagination, ethics and communicative abilities in animals," as if humans somehow didn't count.


I stand by my statement that there is evidence for imagination, ethics and communicative abilities in animals, whether the animals are baboons, humans or stick insects. If you are unclear as to the meaning of antithesis, look it up.

I haven't met any atheists who believe in evolution. They examine the evidence and test the theory.

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:07:00 UTC | #163209

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I also agree with Mitchell Gilks. There is evidence for imagination, ethics and communicative abilities in animals. The antithesis requires that animals and humans evolved in fundamentally different ways. It is more likely that animals occupied different niches with varying requirements for imagination.
Religion took a hold in human development before science because it is an easier activity.

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:11:00 UTC | #163164

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MelissaJoy,
You have circled around the problem of hell. There are several New Testament references that confirm hell as an unquenchable fire into which bad people are thrown. Either the bible tells lies or hell is a fiery furnace of punishment.

Now, I reject god so according to the bible I will, when I die, end up screaming in burning agony not for a day, week or year, but forever. That is eternity, no end, infinite. With this concept you are at one with Islam.

Why do Abrahamic religions insist that god created hell for the likes of myself?
Please explain to me what I have done that deserves such inordinately horrific punishment?
It is far too easy to discuss the goody fluffy stuff. I want to know what the New Testament hell is all about.

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 01:14:00 UTC | #162229

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Ben stein must be in this just for the money. No one could be so seriously stupid, could they?

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:00:00 UTC | #162204

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Comment #169787 by melissajoy1234

Folks, I'm not worried about you being thrown into the "fiery lake". Hell is a very real place, and the worst part about Hell is that it is the complete absence of God,

I am genuinely curious: How can you say such a nasty horrible thing to another person? Can you imagine what it would feel like to be thrown into a fiery lake?
How can the complete absence of god be worse than a fiery lake? Many people can testify that absence of god is neither painful nor distressing in any way. In my experience absence of god is liberating and a source of pleasure and confidence. It is nothing like what I imagine a fiery lake would feel like.
It is useless trying to explain things that we understand, like a fiery lake, using things that you say we do not understand, like god. It is not an acceptable explanation.
I honestly do not think you have thought this through very well.

Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:29:00 UTC | #161356

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riandouglas: Should I continue praying to the Lord for a resolution to this problem?

You haven't been praying, have you? - I tremble as I type. Desist from this or you will be captured by the holy spirit.
I suspect that the Israelites were under the spell of charismatic leaders, Oh I forgot, that is what both testaments of the bible are all about. We have seen such leaders in modern times use dubious ideology to cast their spell (Hitler with the master race, Mao with the little red book). Silly gastronomic restrictions are part of the spellbinding game, also used by many modern religions. I can remember when Catholics would burn in hell forever if they ate meat (not including fish) on Friday.
Public health may have been a reason for the biblical food stipulations. The chosen people could well have had problems with erysipelas from swine and food poisoning from shellfish. This rough knowledge would not only be a self promotion opportunity for the leadership, but as you intimate, a reason to regard other cultures, ignorant of public health, as vile.

Without the authority of the bible or the holy spirit, I commend you to the freedom and beauty of science. Go forth into a sinless world of theory based on evidence.

Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:41:00 UTC | #160958

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Charlou
You refer to God as "it", yet it is an image of a man. What is the correct grammar for reference to a masculine image?

Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:47:00 UTC | #160952

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Comment #169388 by riandouglas

Does turning water into urine count as a miracle? I mean, there are people who claim it has health benefits, so it's almost a healing miracle.
If so, I've been doing the miraculous for years.


You could have vastly increased your production of therapeutic urine by drinking a potent diuretic such as wine. This is why the water-to-wine miracle is potentially of enormous benefit - if only it could be replicated.

God, the inspiration behind the bible was only tricking, as she often does, in declaring that shelfish are unclean. She is reinforcing the fact that shellfish have shit in the head to put us off eating them. This has nothing to do with the potentially devastating effects of turning oceans into holy water.
surely that counts as a little miraculous?

The co-evolution of grapes and yeast is miraculous (for a creationist) and wonderous (for an atheist) but "a little miraculous" is a category mistake.

Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:08:00 UTC | #160946

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riandouglas

Why hasn't something been done.

For the last 2000 years most of the attention has centred on the conversion of water into wine rather than turning oceans into holy water. Who knows what undesirable effects holy sea water would have on the marine ecology. It is far too risky. As for miraculous winemaking, there has only been once instance of this and it was not accomplished with sea water. So far winemakers have only been able to tap into photosynthesis and fermentation using ordinary water.

Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:44:00 UTC | #160934

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Comment #169343 by riandouglas

Does holy water ever become not holy again?

It stays holy. For example, if you dilute holy water indefinitely it morphs into a homeopathic miracle fluid.

Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:00:00 UTC | #160905

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I toyed with the idea that wierdo fundies should be treated differently from moderately religious people. I quickly dismissed that from my mind as I recall the words of Dawkins and others that all religious believers encourage anti-social and irrational behaviour.

Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:49:00 UTC | #160872

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Winston says:

Dennett seems to believe science is "the truth". Like many of my brilliant scientific colleagues, he conveys the notion that science is about a kind of certainty.

Does Dennett believe or not? Furthermore, I understand what the truth is in a scientific context but what is the truth in quotation marks? Again, what is a kind of certainty?
Conforming with Quetzalcoatl's earlier comment, Winston is a tard confused.

Wed, 23 Apr 2008 05:42:00 UTC | #158101

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The Pope along with the Vatican have not learnt anything since Galileo. I am not talking about Ratzinger's lame and desperate apology for the 17th-century church.
Replace "Earth" with "human body" and you have the current version of Galileo's dilemma for contemporary Catholics. Now the human body is sacred, centre of the universe and untouchable. No contraception allowed, no AIDs control by condom, no embryonic research.
To say the Pope is 400 years out of date is such an understatement that it is beyond comedy. When I think of the current Pope I think of poor Galileo, but also of the countless people who have needlessly suffered from religious stupidity.

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:21:00 UTC | #157512