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Go to: Religious Olympics

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Comment 53 by Mr DArcy clodhopper:

The 100 martyrs Brilliant! If I was a judge, this would be the gold medalist so far! (Where's Amos when you need him? Laurie Faser, are you there?).

Hey Mr DArcy - what about the 4x400 relay? Just replace the baton with snakes.

Fri, 27 Jul 2012 01:01:28 UTC | #950136

Go to: Do we need objective morals?

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Comment 20 by phil rimmer

Super, Phil! Nailed the argument in a nutshell.

Wed, 25 Jul 2012 23:42:06 UTC | #950080

Go to: Religious Olympics

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Serpent handling. Medals conferred posthumously.

Tue, 24 Jul 2012 02:28:48 UTC | #949957

Go to: The Dawkins Challenge

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The body of Christ, present in the sacrament of the Eucharist, although real (neither symbolic nor metaphorical), is vastly different from the ordinary bodies subject to empirical analysis. It is sacramental presence and theology, aided by philosophy, that help to make intelligible what is believed.

Word salad indeed. Reading this, one can see from where the language of PoMo is derived.

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 02:02:15 UTC | #947310

Go to: Why I watched a snake-handling pastor die for his faith

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This sort of activity ought to be encouraged.

Sat, 02 Jun 2012 04:37:02 UTC | #945145

Go to: Moral Clarity and Richard Dawkins

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Is this moron for real? Hs he not realised, yet, that moral reasoning takes place within the context of who we are physically and socially? That human ethics are a result of some serious evolutionary and societal processes? I despair. Too stupid for words.

Tue, 22 May 2012 09:55:57 UTC | #942785

Go to: Australia's blurred separation between church and state

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The Howard government's introduction of the chaplaincy program here was a deliberate attempt to divide and conquer. Their greater objective was, always, to undermine public education in whatever way they could. They had an ideological imperative to abandon our history of providing high quality public education, and encourage (by means of an unprecedented financial largesse) the movement of students to the private education sector.

The chaplaincy program has seen public schools employ untrained religoids because they are cheaper than real counsellors, who must be qualified in psychology, etc. Instead, these bozos are using their employment as an insidious mechanism for religious brainwashing. Many parents have voted with their feet, and have taken their children to private education providers, just as Howard and his fascist cronies wanted. Poor feller, my country.

Mon, 30 Apr 2012 06:38:13 UTC | #938290

Go to: Richard Dawkins Has a Point, Your Eminence!

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Comment 77 by franz_liszt

"Fuckwit" is a formal term in Australian academic English, indicating that the writer or speaker has no fucking idea what he's talking about. Just FYI.

Sun, 29 Apr 2012 02:02:16 UTC | #938088

Go to: Richard Dawkins Has a Point, Your Eminence!

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In Australia, Pell is generally regarded as a malicious, if intellectually befuddled, old puritan. He's sexist and homophobic - a real posterboy for values that have largely disappeared from our society.

How thrilling, then, to read from an even more deranged fuckwit that Pell is actually a progressive!

Comedy gold, again, from the RCC.

Sat, 28 Apr 2012 01:54:51 UTC | #937873

Go to: Richard Dawkins on Beautiful Minds - BBC Four Wed April 25

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Comment 111 by decius

Taking illustrious contributors to strange techno clubs is pretty evil, Decius, especially if some of them are entering their dotage.

BTW - an excellent documentary, Richard!

Thu, 26 Apr 2012 07:07:27 UTC | #937402

Go to: Has Physics Made Philosophy and Religion Obsolete?

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I’ve never understood this idea. It’s not as if scientists do stuff, then ask philosophers to tell them whether they’ve done good science. The “this is when science is good” rules are part of science itself; it would be a very arbitrary definition of science to say otherwise.

There's a difference between the methodological reflexive behaviour of science, and the external reflection on science. Non-scientists (i.e. philosophers) regularly make substantive comments on the methodology and programmatic interests of science, and in many cases these comments are particularly apposite and enlightening. Dennett's Darwin's Dangerous Idea is a case in point, where DD makes valuable contributions to our understanding of the success of evolutionary theory. It's no good putting science in a gilded cage - it must be scrutinised by broader approaches.

Wed, 25 Apr 2012 08:00:22 UTC | #937150

Go to: Has Physics Made Philosophy and Religion Obsolete?

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This argument has been coming and going over the last few years, and I continue to think that the Science v Philosophy 'debate' argues at cross-purposes, in the main.

Quine's post (Comment 10) is true, in that Philosophy has to give way in matters of empirical science. But then, Philosophy has given over the investigative realms which belong to Science quite frequently since the Enlightenment, and that's what you'd expect of a discipline of honest inquiry.

To me, the beauty of Philosophy is that it has become an expert feedback loop for the consideration of the scientific enterprise - a kind of check and balance mechanism, where science can be judged on its epistemic enterprise, amongst other things.

It must be remembered that Philosophy itself is largely bound by teleological pursuits, including the effort to attach meaning to all sorts of human activity, including political society, ethics, culture and science. (And I'm not 'teleological' in any sort of metaphysical way, btw.)

So Philosophy is not, and never will be, redundant. Of course we need the scientific enterprise, but equally, we need to reflect on it.

Wed, 25 Apr 2012 05:40:12 UTC | #937132

Go to: Richard Dawkins announced as 2012 recipient for ‘Services to Humanism’ award to be presented at the BHA’s Annual Conference

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Heartiest congratulations, Richard. There is no finer person eligible for this award. Your efforts at raising the consciousness of people across the globe towards the understanding of science, and the importance of secularism and humanism, are unmatched. See you this week at the Opera House!

Sun, 15 Apr 2012 05:11:52 UTC | #934749

Go to: Pell, Dawkins wage battle of belief

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On Sydney radio this afternoon, the consensus of the political panel (political journos) was that Pell gave Richard a thrashing. As this was so obviously not the case, one wonders what the level of intelligence of these hacks is.

Thu, 12 Apr 2012 09:26:27 UTC | #934095

Go to: Tennessee Passes ‘Monkey Bill’ To Teach The ‘Controversy’ On Evolution And Climate Science

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"Privatize Education"? I think the name says it all.

Mon, 26 Mar 2012 03:22:25 UTC | #930488

Go to: Blessed are those with a persecution complex?

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Persecute 'em, I say!

(P.S. Great article, Paula.)

Mon, 26 Mar 2012 03:12:04 UTC | #930486

Go to: Untrue Reason -- re Naturalism

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I don't find this so much a science problem, Q, as a semantic one. It seems to me that that theists too readily borrow the language of reality (i.e. 'meaning') and shoehorn it into a conceptual superstructure they call 'theology', whose language sounds like it is describing things that are real, but which in fact have no substantive base. I recall a conversation you and I had last year about this, but, for the life of me, I can't recall the specifics! I blame Decius and his goddamn Italian wine! :)

Thu, 22 Mar 2012 05:25:29 UTC | #929529

Go to: Is Richard Dawkins an ape?

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You just post this stuff to give us the shits, don't you, RDFRS? :)

Sun, 18 Mar 2012 12:51:22 UTC | #928273

Go to: Richard Dawkins to be new Archbishop of Canterbury

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Congratulations, Richard. I've still got the hat if you need it for the new appointment.

Sun, 18 Mar 2012 10:51:00 UTC | #928261

Go to: Richard Dawkins - The Census Research Explained

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Comment 41 by John Nisbet

I'm sure Professor Dawkins will drop everything and race to meet your challenge, oh gifted one. Have fun with that.

Laurie (not even a pseudo intellect) Fraser

Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:11:50 UTC | #920119

Go to: Dawkins & Krauss Discussion from ASU 4 Feb

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Ah, Carto - you wonderful, genius of a man!

Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:26:09 UTC | #917146

Go to: Grovel for the sake of it

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Whilst I agree with Ophelia's idealism, she is being utterly naive on this matter. This is a game of realpolitik, where every vote counts. In a nation as obsessed with sexual 'morality' as the U.S., Obama realises he must hasten slowly, rather than 'crash through or crash', as our esteemed Prime Minister Gough Whitlam attempted in 1972 - 1975 in Australia. Four more years of Democrat power may soften the perspective of Americans on these issues. Four, or eight, years of Rethuglikkkanism (thanks, Chuck) will see the very thing that Ophelia is so concerned about - women's rights - go down the gurgler.

Sun, 12 Feb 2012 07:40:28 UTC | #916809

Go to: The atheist who tried to steal Christmas

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Comment 16, by Paula, says everything I wanted to say about Taunton's bullshit, but better. I'll only say this: I gave The Magic of Reality to my grand-daughter, and we read a little from it together a couple of times a week, and it delights and inspires her, and we use it as a jumping-off point for our own nature excursions. That's the sort of literature children need - not magic hate manuals.

Wed, 28 Dec 2011 09:54:42 UTC | #903250

Go to: Bible rewritten to make it ‘easier to follow’

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I must have become a curmudgeon overnight. I thought it was lame.

Sun, 25 Dec 2011 07:34:44 UTC | #902586

Go to: Biology test omits creation theory, complains Kentucky educator

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This turkey requires Irate's immortal response. Irate...?

Fri, 16 Dec 2011 07:18:17 UTC | #899471

Go to: Science is about facts, not ideology

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Spot on, crookedshoes.

Fri, 16 Dec 2011 06:58:05 UTC | #899459

Go to: In Memoriam: Christopher Hitchens, 1949–2011

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So it's happened, finally, as we knew it was going to. But it still hurts. He was ours - a brilliant standard-bearer for atheism, reason and justice - and I am the poorer for his passing.

Fri, 16 Dec 2011 06:12:41 UTC | #899426

Go to: Fox News Viewers Know Less Than People Who Don't Watch Any News: Study

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Let's face it - very few people have a "very good" grasp on events and issues, simply because the majority do not read extensively, or know how to source reliable information. The average Fox News consumer is only marginally less well-off than his Daily Mail-reading counterpart. One of the biggest-selling newspapers in Australia is the Sydney Daily Telegraph - a Murdoch rag that feeds a constant stream of right-wing propaganda to mainly working-class people. Obviously, we would be better off without any of these nasty, ideological "news" organs, but we live in mainly capitalist societies where "freedom of the press" is a holy writ that allows abject mendacity to be reported as truth.

Fri, 25 Nov 2011 08:13:30 UTC | #892966

Go to: What are you agnostic about?

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He's back, he's on fire. Look out!

Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:51:49 UTC | #891311

Go to: PRESS RELEASE: Big news for the online atheist community

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Several of my U.S. friends have commented, at one time or another, that being an atheist in the States is an oppressive existence - that is, they have felt as though they are indeed considered odd, strange or "queer" by their theistic acquaintances, and have therefore kept their views to themselves.

This always struck me as weird; in my country (Australia), almost no-one gives a toss about one's religious ideas. In fact, most people here consider the loopier variety of Christians - evangelicals, happy-clappers, George Pell, etc. - to be pure batshit-crazy. This article provides a different perspective.

Thu, 03 Nov 2011 00:52:02 UTC | #886653