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Further to my last, Christopher Hitchens said words to the effect, that it's not possible to argue with the religious mentality.

He was right, it flits from the subjuntive but impossible, to the indicitive and realistic, with alacrity.

We all do it, but if you know when you're fantasizing and when not, that's fine, but it seems to me that religion renders people incapable of knowing it.

Is it cognitive dissonance, or arrested development, or, a combination of both?

Which ever, I have always found it really weird.

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:58:13 UTC | #947403

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Boring tail chasing!

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:32:09 UTC | #947373

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Typical.

Of course, had a Muslim developed the vaccine it'd be wooooonderful beyond words!

But having been on their knees with their arses in the air talking to themselves for a thousand years not a lot has got done.

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:24:28 UTC | #947354

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Oh dear, I don't think god will like this one little; tinkering with his toys.

Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:51:02 UTC | #947209

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No image.

Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:46:48 UTC | #947167

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A whinge a day keeps the dole queue at bay; much more of this sort of thing and they'll be out of a job.

People standing up for, and thinking, for themselves; what ever next?

Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:45:38 UTC | #947074

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I've been waiting for about two hours for my comment to appear. Has anyone come across it I wonder?

Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:31:09 UTC | #947045

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What is the world coming to? Where will it all end?

On the bright sunlit uplands of reality; where else?

Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:43:04 UTC | #947026

Go to: Louisiana lunacy: tens of millions to be spent on faith-based education

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Idiotic.

We in the UK need to be, and to remain, vigilant apropos of slippage in this area.

Sun, 10 Jun 2012 16:13:39 UTC | #946738

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Good news well expressed.

Sun, 10 Jun 2012 09:10:12 UTC | #946705

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Part and parcel of living is trusting and being trustworthy. In other words - becoming adult!

Religion infantilizes.

Sat, 09 Jun 2012 07:58:42 UTC | #946522

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How weird that this kind of fight back is necessary!

The one thing which distinguishes us from all other animals is our level of intelligence, so how come so many of us just don't use it?

Really weird.

I'm presently wading through the KJB and Qur' ran, and they are both full of weirdness, none of which, I submit, would stand up in a current day court of law; although I think I'd probably be proved wrong were the presiding Judge to be Cheri Blair.

Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:43:42 UTC | #946322

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I think what she's doing is informing the informers/teachers and bolstering their moral.

For my part, I'm circulating flyers about a Chiltern Humanist meeting being addressed by Annie Marie Waters about the "One Law For All" campaign.

My only criticism of Eugenie Scott is an irritating vocal mannerism she has; she seems to have a constantly dry throat. Remedial tuition is simple enough.

Thu, 07 Jun 2012 07:19:21 UTC | #946061

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He's ace, and funny.

Sun, 03 Jun 2012 10:25:09 UTC | #945301

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Apropos of dance, there are any number of dances - Waltz, Quick Step, Tango, etc etc, which carry on in one form for centuries.

There is also a code/notation for ballet productions, so that they can be replicated.

Great discussion though.

Sat, 02 Jun 2012 09:47:35 UTC | #945169

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I'm pleased to see Rosalynd Frankln mentioned, she rarely is; one of the houses at our daughters' school was named after her.

When Jocelyn Bell Burnell discovered pulsars, one news paper headline read "Girl discovers star." ; so what's new folks?

Fri, 01 Jun 2012 18:33:39 UTC | #945034

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I'm pleased to see Rosalynd Frankln mentioned, she rarely is; one of the houses at our daughters' school was named after her.

When Jocelyn Bell Burnell discovered pulsars, one news paper headline read "Girl discovers star." ; so what's new folks?

Fri, 01 Jun 2012 18:31:21 UTC | #945033

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It's always been obvious that Hitler was not an atheist.

Fri, 01 Jun 2012 16:39:48 UTC | #945009

Go to: You want to ban hate speech? Isn’t that what religion is?

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19: Tyler Durden.

Thanks for the insecurity mechanism suggestion; it fits perfectly, she did actually once ask me if I was trying to convert her.

Sadly, I think it's all too ingrained now, and I'd best do as she's asked and leave her alone; but, you never know, I might have started something, and she might want to hear the Daniel Dennett talk!

Thanks also to : 13, Premiseless - 14, strangebrew - 15, Sample - and 18, richard jr miles, for your comments.

Fri, 01 Jun 2012 15:45:43 UTC | #944996

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I have a friend - friend? Well, an acquaintance, who until recently I thought was a friend, who, when I try to discuss religion with her calls me a born again atheist, a bully, and bonkers, and tells me to leave her alone; it's a kind of hate talk, albeit mild.

I never employ an ad hominem approach in discourse, but she just flies off the handle when ever I try to discuss "faith".

She doesn't think Tim Minchin is funny, just very angry, she found "From Abbotabad to Worse" infuriating, and at present I'm waiting to hear from her as to whether she'll agree to let me send her Daniel Dennett's recent video "How to Tell You're an Atheist". ; this will be my last shot, although I don't really know why I'm bothering.

She suffers from having been born into the Catholic tradition, and it's proved absolutely impossible to get her to discuss the matter. About everything else she's perfectly rational, and I like her, but her behaviour when it comes to religion is a text book example of what I've observed over many decades, cognitive dissonance, in spades; actually, it may be more similar to schizophrenia; I'm using both terms very loosely of course.

Questioning and enquiry of her beliefs are absolutely forbidden, but she feels completely at liberty to slag off those with different views to her.

An interesting syndrome perhaps?

Fri, 01 Jun 2012 08:59:19 UTC | #944923

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"Contraception-coverage". Very good!

Thu, 31 May 2012 07:40:14 UTC | #944715

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It would seem that antediluvian troglodytes abound.

Wed, 30 May 2012 11:39:27 UTC | #944455

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Antediluvian troglodytes.

Wed, 30 May 2012 11:34:38 UTC | #944452

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A wordly well educated politician; well there's a thing; still a faith head though.

But, clearly a thinker and a jolly good chap, what? Although a colloquial and rhetorical question, one that's deserving of an answer I think.

Get the irony; nod nod, wink wink, tap nose side!

Tue, 29 May 2012 19:46:55 UTC | #944305

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The final paragraph is chilling.

I think it's safe to say that people who've been afflicted by religion at an early age find it incredibly difficult to free themselves from the dogmas which as children they believed implicitly; they just can't quite let go of that comfort blanket.

Evolution is so manifestly true that I find it hard to believe that people of faith can't really see as much, but masses of them can't; it is really weird.

The paucity and poor quality of science education results in non scientists failing to understand what a theory is. They think it's a kind of hunch or inkling or wishful thinking. No, that's religion.

It's not understood that in science theories are the result of the accumulation of findings reached via rigorous, disciplined processes which finally unite and explain facts about matter; if they survive the pounding they receive that is.

And even then they remain vulnerable to being superceded by new discoveries which occur in the sciences all the time.

Theories are permanently in foxholes.

Tue, 29 May 2012 17:16:51 UTC | #944264

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14: HardNosedSkeptic.

Excellent idea!

Mon, 28 May 2012 17:46:36 UTC | #944008

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How depressing.

It'll take a world wide generation fire wall to distance us all from this childish nonsense; would religious leaders resist such a thing? Do bears dump in the woods.

Perhaps we would be better off leaving the whole sorry mess and moving to another planet; trouble is, there would almost inevitably be faith heads among the emigrant community who would screw up the enterprise for everyone else.

Ah well, we'll just have to keep up the battle against the wing nuts, if only in honour of Christopher Hitchens; that's well worthwhile doing which ever way you slice it.

Mon, 28 May 2012 10:08:12 UTC | #943940

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Instead of migrating to other planets, why don't we get our act together here on Earth?

As a species we've only been around for two or three nail filings of time, and although so far we have indeed made a bit of a dog's dinner of it, surely we could do better, try harder, instead of scurrying away leaving the place like a teenager's bedroom.

A good start would be to ditch superstition; we know we're susceptible to fanatasising, and we know why, so why don't we just grow up and make the most of this wonderful world of ours?

Mon, 28 May 2012 07:31:21 UTC | #943915

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Beautiful.

Sun, 27 May 2012 15:38:51 UTC | #943831

Go to: How the Web is killing faith

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5: M

Sat, 26 May 2012 18:36:49 UTC | #943678