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Go to: "The nature of human beings and the question of their ultimate origin"

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Comment 218 by StephenH :

Richard v Archbishop - How do they compare?

On The War on Terror, I'd agree with Richard there, the archbishop has concerns about the killing of an unarmed man, but considering all the deaths that had gone before, linked to Bin Laden, did it really matter whether he was armed or not?

What would be justice, capture him alive, haul him in front of a court, then send him to prison for the rest of his days, at the taxpayer expense

Well, yes. That basic standard of justice was good enough for the Nazi War Criminals, whose atrocities far outweighed Bin Ladens.

Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:19:51 UTC | #921498

Go to: Mississippi's "Personhood Amendment" fails at polls

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How stupid, everyone already knows that rights of personhood only belong to big corporations.

Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:31:31 UTC | #888964

Go to: [UPDATE - Video replaced]David Silverman Debates Dinesh D’souza

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Comment 8 by drumdaddy :

I object to giving right-wing tool Dinesh D’souza any further forums. His overexposed lies are tiresome. He is filth, right-wing filth. Look it up.

Agreed. An absurd liar and a charlatan.

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:30:59 UTC | #885805

Go to: Advertising standards & religion

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I wonder how much effort those Christians who complained (and forced compliance from the ASA) put into complaining about those countless adverts that feature the sexual objectification of men and women. Surely that's more antithetical to their values than a picture of their messiah smiling and winking, the supposed offensiveness of which is never fully explained. Surely Jesus did smile and wink sometimes like any other person right? What's the problem?

Wed, 07 Sep 2011 17:17:07 UTC | #868319

Go to: US cigarette makers sue over graphic warning labels - freedom of speech?

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Comment 1 by epeeist :

Can a corporation have a right to free speech? Shouldn't this be reserved for real as opposed to pretend people?

Tue, 23 Aug 2011 21:06:53 UTC | #863513

Go to: Richard Dawkins at the University of Maryland

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Comment 2 by Inferno821 :

I was in attendance and while I feel that it might have been interesting to a new listener, many of us came because we knew who he was and were slightly disappointed. There was little expectation that he would talk about atheism because of the groups that sponsored him and because the interviewer had vaguely referenced his displeasure about Dawkins' atheism in his Evolution classes. It would have been nice if Professor Castillo-Davis had asked him something that was more intellectually provoking.

Complaining aside, it was still very exciting to see Professor Dawkins live. The only Horseman I have left to witness is Daniel Dennett.

Really? I feel that the god issue is the mundane one. I'm reminded of Steven Weinberg's musing that his physicist colleagues don't care enough about the god question to be even be considered practising atheists. Scientific inquiry is far more intellectual intriguing and fascinating than all that. And really, what import would the existence of a god have on the real and important questions of science? As Dawkins himself points out, throwing a vague notion with the three letter word into the equation sheds light on absolutely nothing. It's entirely vacuous.

Tue, 23 Aug 2011 21:04:19 UTC | #863511

Go to: Attention Governor Perry: Evolution is a fact

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There are plenty of fools that are very educated. We usually call them philosophers and humanities graduates. Likewise, there are many wise, intelligent and knowledgeable people that I've met with virtually no education at all.

Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:45:37 UTC | #863503

Go to: William Lane Craig - for children

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Isn't it funny to note that Craig speaks of the pre-teens having "their faith" while acknowledging that they can't possibly have had made any rational, informed individual decision about "their faith" in the first place? Is the Christian religion rational or isn't it?

Wed, 10 Aug 2011 17:32:11 UTC | #859782

Go to: 20 Christian Academics Speaking About God

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In truth, all of those theologians shouldn't be considered academics.

Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:55:32 UTC | #859762

Go to: Fantasy's Spell on Pop Culture: When Will It Wear Off?

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I don't see the point of this being here. Seriously, what's the point?

In truth, anti-empirical philosophy has incomparably done more damage than fantasy fiction throughout the ages. It was Plato and Aristotle, not Homer, that wrecked intellectual thought for centuries.

Wed, 03 Aug 2011 00:59:18 UTC | #857246

Go to: 50 Famous Academics & Scientists Talk About God

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The list includes includes 16 Nobel prize winners, and a bundle of recognizable names, including Richard Feynman, Steven Pinker, Oliver Sacks, Bertrand Russell, Stephen Hawking, and Leonard Susskind

Feynman and Russell both won Nobel Prizes.

Wed, 27 Jul 2011 01:33:33 UTC | #854499

Go to: Religion's forgotten holocaust

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Don't forget the horrific genocide carried out against the indigenous people of North America, the toll of which (10 million) far exceeded the Holocaust of the Jews or any of 'religions forgotten holocausts'.

Tue, 26 Jul 2011 15:42:48 UTC | #854283

Go to: Richard Dawkins & Mr. and Mrs. Louis J. Appignani of Jackson Hole Wyoming

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No need for the slap in the face by describing him as a philosopher, even they do imply that he's one of the few philosophers worth listening too.

Mon, 25 Jul 2011 01:41:43 UTC | #853679

Go to: BBC gives too much weight to fringe views on issues such as climate change

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The report will disappoint some climate change sceptics who hoped it would find the BBC at fault for promoting a green agenda. "There is a consensus in the scientific community that anthropogenic climate change exists," Jones said. By failing to move the debate on, the BBC was missing other stories, he added.

Why defame the noble term of 'sceptic' by associating it with climate change denialist cranks?

Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:10:10 UTC | #852261

Go to: States Enact Record Number of Abortion Restrictions in First Half of 2011

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"Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers." - George Carlin.

Mon, 18 Jul 2011 23:09:27 UTC | #851137

Go to: Ex-Muslim Council refused charitable status

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And how absurd that defending secularism is not a charitable object but advancing religion is, particularly in this day and age when we are living under an Islamic Inquisition.

If they want to be taken seriously they should quit it with the hysterical rhetoric. 'We' are by no means living under an Islamic Inquisition. Last time I checked, Islam in the UK was still a fringe minority religion with no especial powers or privileges, at least, none more than is the norm for minority religious groups in the UK.

Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:25:36 UTC | #849979

Go to: Francis Collins: Atheist Richard Dawkins Admits Universe's Fine-Tuning Difficult to Explain

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And, why should finding the origin of our universe difficult to explain lead to the absurd conclusion that some being who thinks an ignorant tribe in the middle east is important set things going?

And why isn't an ignorant tribe in the middle east important? I'm sure for example, even in their illiteracy (relative to us with our extremely privilged upbringing and education of course) these human beings living in the dreaded middle east valued their own lives and culture pretty highly.

Anyway, this is more typically flimsy stuff from Collins. It's perfectly okay to just say we don't know why the universe is comprehensible in the way that it is, and what the answers to the mysteries it has are. A man with his credentials in science should know this.

Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:07:11 UTC | #844372

Go to: Dealing with William Lane Craig

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Comment 962 by Pete Freeman :

You only have to ask whether TGD was intended as philosophy, or theology, which absent RD's correction I think the answer is neither. (I meant to say.)

I think Dawkins set the God Delusion out as an attack on supernaturalism of all kinds.

Tue, 28 Jun 2011 18:49:40 UTC | #844008

Go to: He's on a mission from God

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Who does he think he is? The Pope?

Mon, 27 Jun 2011 00:04:14 UTC | #843182

Go to: Richard Dawkins on Futureproof

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Comment 4 by Linda Ward :

Ireland, both bits, is mired in religion inspired violence and segregation.

It's not really actually. No paradise, but certainly not a hell-hole.

The official Futureproof Facebook page makes it very clear that this was not exactly an impartial or unbiased show in regards to Dawkins.

Sun, 26 Jun 2011 20:49:18 UTC | #843054

Go to: I think the creationists would rather just forget about Expelled

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Comment 6 by Stevehill :

I can't see why anybody would want to "rescue" this film at auction.

The unedited interviews with Dawkins, Myers, Atkins et al will probably be worth distributing for free..

Sun, 26 Jun 2011 09:20:11 UTC | #842748

Go to: Ireland's poisonous blasphemy debate

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Buckley (and self appointed religious spokespeople in general) should learn to speak for himself. I, and every other Irish person, didn't choose Catholicism. As he knows perfectly well, it was rammed down our throat. Some of us have grown up to deeply resent the Catholic Church's effect on our lives and society, and despise the values it stands for.

Sat, 25 Jun 2011 14:50:20 UTC | #842512

Go to: Johann Hari interviews PZ Myers

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Well that was pretty long. Always good to hear from Myers and Hari, one of the best and most courageous journalists working in the mainstream today.

Mon, 20 Jun 2011 16:57:05 UTC | #640879

Go to: Muslim "Children of a Lesser God?"

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Agree with the above posters. This is pretty lame right wing bullshit. Unknowable presumptions ('Obama doesn't understand Muslim leaders'), blanket statements, absurdities, grisly in depth details of the wickedness carried out by the enemy, emotive rhetoric... Yawn.

Mon, 20 Jun 2011 01:53:51 UTC | #640650

Go to: Christians more militant than Muslims, says Government's equalities boss

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He gets £100,000 a year for producing this bullshit? Just shows how intellectual acuity is not really needed for a top place in the establishment. Even a dyed in the wool Blairite wouldn't have come out with something so confused and stupid.

Sun, 19 Jun 2011 11:50:25 UTC | #640398

Go to: Michele Bachmann on intelligent design

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Unlike the awards for real scientists, he Nobel Prizes for Peace and Economics are something of mixed bag, full of charlatans (Mother Teresa), war criminals (Carter, Kissinger) and people who have been downright discredited (Friedman), but I'm sure those of whom are wool-headed enough to even tacitly see something in intelligent design will have advisers and handlers savvy enough to know that they'll blow their credibllity by touching such wingnuttery.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 19:43:02 UTC | #640103

Go to: The 100 greatest non-fiction books

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I'm very surprised Russell's History of Western Philosophy didn't make it.

Thu, 16 Jun 2011 22:42:26 UTC | #639414

Go to: UPDATE: Fashionable Nonsense?

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Comment 273 by Rationem :

Comment 266 by The Plc :

How depressing to note that today the rot has spread from the postmodernist charlatans to more credible figures, although, Grayling's excuses and rationale for his scheme are no less flimsy and absurd than the writings of the former class.

It is disheartening to see this tendency among a certain segment of so-called philosophers(like postmodernists etc, but hey at least we still have the writings of people like Rudolph Rocker, Anton Pannekoek etc) to separate themselves from working class schools, popular writing, and participation in popular activities, but it's by no means widespread. In fact, I see far more engagement in particular from scientists nowadays then in the past. Historically, scientists were not even supposed to talk to the public; this was elevated to a professional ethic; people like Sagan and Russell were specifically attacked for talking directly to the public. Because obviously, working people must be kept ignorant for they just don't have the capacity to understand. Luckily, popular books like The Greatest Show on Earth, to name just one, continue to be written, and bring to the public information about interesting and absorbing topics in an intelligible way. Most importantly, these writers are not trying to obscure their theories, their evidence, or their conclusions. Meaning, if their theories/conclusions were trivial or simple they wouldn't dress them up.

I should add that it's not a serious suggestion to say that the likes of Dawkins and Krauss have neglected their responsibility to educate and inform the general public. Grayling doesn't really popularise philosophy, his popular work I'd just call mostly journalism and social commentary for a educated, middle class audience, with occasional philosophy thrown in.

Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:53:25 UTC | #638939

Go to: Latest shenanigans from Texas Gov. Rick Perry

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If he's referring to the New Testament - which he must be as he is no doubt a faithful follower of Jesus Christ - surely that means he's advocating a form of extreme communism no? Quite the turnaround for the Republican Party. At least the poor will finally get healed for free anyway.

Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:39:18 UTC | #638932

Go to: UPDATE: Fashionable Nonsense?

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The link above contained a passage above, that seemed to me to be particularly resonant in light of current developments.

There has been a striking change in the behavior of the intellectual class in recent years. The left intellectuals who 60 years ago would have been teaching in working class schools, writing books like "mathematics for the millions" (which made mathematics intelligible to millions of people), participating in and speaking for popular organizations, etc., are now largely disengaged from such activities, and although quick to tell us that they are far more radical than thou, are not to be found, it seems, when there is such an obvious and growing need and even explicit request for the work they could do out there in the world of people with live problems and concerns.

How depressing to note that today the rot has spread from the postmodernist charlatans to more credible figures, although, Grayling's excuses and rationale for his scheme are no less flimsy and absurd than the writings of the former class.

Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:45:49 UTC | #638881