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Ian Jackson's Avatar Comment 1 by Ian Jackson

The scale of her towering stupidity is awe-inspiring. Is this woman really the best that the Republicans can come up with?

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:54:00 UTC | #257506

Steve Zara's Avatar Comment 2 by Steve Zara

I thought I was listening to a parody when I heard her complain about fruit fly research. She is both incredibly, frighteningly ignorant and also, to make things worse, has frighteningly ignorant advisors.

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:58:00 UTC | #257512

Richard Dawkins's Avatar Comment 3 by Richard Dawkins

She makes George Bush look intelligent.

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:59:00 UTC | #257514

root2squared's Avatar Comment 4 by root2squared

In an anti-intellectual culture, where stupidity is glorified and intelligence is looked down upon as being elite, this is not surprising.

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:10:00 UTC | #257526

hawt4dawk's Avatar Comment 5 by hawt4dawk

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Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:19:00 UTC | #257533

sppach's Avatar Comment 7 by sppach

I thought i'd get in first "Nobody makes George Bush look intelligent" seriously though what does any intelligent American imagine the world at large thinks about Palin, iv'e read a few times, one heartbeat away from the presidency ( if Mcain & Palin make it) it can't happen can it?

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:19:00 UTC | #257536

HourglassMemory's Avatar Comment 6 by HourglassMemory

I've heard Michael Moore say something quite true when he was recently interviewed on Larry King.
(Here's the video, it's 23 minutes long.
http://edition.cnn.com/video/ )
In this interview, around 11:30, he says:
"Obama's main oponent in this election, on November 4th, is not John Mccain. It's Ignorance. It's Obama vs Ignorance."
That is very true, even if you disagree with Moore on other issues.

It's EXTREMELY DISTURBING to see a woman like Palin getting this close to having INTERNATIONAL influence, not to mention what she could to to the standards of science education in the US.
The world is going to shake its head if americans elect this woman to be vice-president.
This election will show the intelligence and knowledge of the american public.

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:19:00 UTC | #257534

Richard Dawkins's Avatar Comment 8 by Richard Dawkins

In an anti-intellectual culture, where stupidity is glorified and intelligence is looked down upon as being elite, this is not surprising
That's exactly right. Sarah Palin's Drosophilistinism is just one small manifestation of a larger and very worrying phenomenon, potentially fatal in a democracy: ignorant stupidity has become a proud badge of in-group solidarity. Many people are actively afraid of education, of cleverness, of fitness for office.

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:23:00 UTC | #257540

beanson's Avatar Comment 9 by beanson

She's hot though

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:26:00 UTC | #257545

Roy_H's Avatar Comment 10 by Roy_H

Comment #271142 by Richard Dawkins on October 25, 2008 at 10:59 am

Yes you are so right Richard. I think the stunningly accurate impersonation of her by Tina Fey on SNL is making a lot of Americans realise that too!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ETy_48lg8Co&feature=related

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:31:00 UTC | #257548

root2squared's Avatar Comment 11 by root2squared

Comment #271168 by Richard Dawkins

That's exactly right. Sarah Palin's Drosophilistinism is just one small manifestation of a larger and very worrying phenomenon, potentially fatal in a democracy: ignorant stupidity has become a proud badge of in-group solidarity. Many people are actively afraid of education, of cleverness, of fitness for office.


Indeed. It seems to be very similar to religion in that it is intellectually lazy. Just as in religion you do not have to study anything, or do any research in order to be able to make up your "theories", so in an anti-intellectual culture, you do not have to read, or keep yourself informed about current events in order to have a position on any matter.

And just like religion, there is safety in numbers. If you are the only stupid one around, you would be embarrassed, but if you have someone else like you, then you feel a bit more secure and once you have a critical mass of such support then you can avoid the hard work of thinking and just pretend ignorance is cool. This is much easier to spread than spreading the idea of reason and thinking because it involves no effort at all.

It is simply being lazy and arrogant.

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:33:00 UTC | #257550

hawt4dawk's Avatar Comment 12 by hawt4dawk

The fact that Palin hasn't been (permanently) hustled off the stage of American politics by now causes me to feel a keen sense of horror and despair.

About climate change, Sarah Palin said this to Newsmax (2008):

I'm not one though who would attribute it to being man-made.


Then she said in a more recent interview, while acknowledging that it's a problem to be solved (by using more fossil fuels?), that:

But it kinda doesn't matter at this point in the debate what caused it.


Look, you crazy, ignorant, self-serving woman, it "kinda" does matter.

Our world plus one degree:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_ZQRIsn2pA

Our world plus two degrees:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-0_gDXqYeQ

Our world plus three degrees
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rdLu7wiZOE

Our world plus four degrees
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skFrR3g4BRQ

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:39:00 UTC | #257554

Bonzai's Avatar Comment 14 by Bonzai

Drosophilistinism? I am impressed. Got to look up a dictionary (I think it has nothing to do with dolphines but probably something to do with Philistines)

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:40:00 UTC | #257556

GeneticNemesis's Avatar Comment 13 by GeneticNemesis

"This is the most mindless, ignorant, uninformed comment that we have seen from Governor Palin so far and there's been a lot of competition for that prize."


Priceless.

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:40:00 UTC | #257555

Quetzalcoatl's Avatar Comment 15 by Quetzalcoatl

Bonzai-

I'm sure you already know, but it's a combination of Drosophila (the fruit fly genus) and philistinism. Sorry for pointing out the obvious.

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:41:00 UTC | #257557

Bonzai's Avatar Comment 16 by Bonzai

Quetzal

Actuall I don't. I fucked up highschool biology because I couldn't remember all the Latin words. My teacher told me, "If you ever got a chance to go to university, do something like Physics or math, but stay away from biology and organic chemistry. You have a decent CPU but a very small hard disk"

My understanding of evolution is also conceptual. I can't get into factual details about specific speicies and so on.

Thanks, though.

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:45:00 UTC | #257562

Pattern Seeker's Avatar Comment 18 by Pattern Seeker

Believe it or not, "P-Alien" is coming to my hometown tomorrow to throw red meat to the base. I plan on walking into the belly of the beast and seeing this hate-filled rhetoric first hand as well as, taking my hornet's nest beatin'-stick. Sounds like fun. You betcha'. Wish me luck.

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:46:00 UTC | #257566

root2squared's Avatar Comment 17 by root2squared

Hi Hawt

I see you have dug up some links for us :)

But it doesn't matter to Palin because Jesus will be here soon with the air-conditioning.

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:46:00 UTC | #257565

Don_Quix's Avatar Comment 19 by Don_Quix

The first 100 days of the Palin administration:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1sE1E3z7jU

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:47:00 UTC | #257567

hawt4dawk's Avatar Comment 20 by hawt4dawk

Bonzai -- I couldn't find it and asked my husband. He suggested Drosophilidae (fruit fly) Philistinism.

Clever word coinage! Richard Dawkins is way hotter. ;o)

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:49:00 UTC | #257569

bendigeidfran's Avatar Comment 22 by bendigeidfran

Great opportunity for free air time for someone/everyone to point out why fruit fly research is relevant to humans. It must seem incredibly odd to a creationist - what on earth have flies got to do with us' Are we cousins or something'

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:50:00 UTC | #257572

mirandaceleste's Avatar Comment 21 by mirandaceleste

I teach at one of the colleges that Ignorant McPalin of Doom attended (unfortunately), and on the day McCain chose her, all faculty received this email about how very proud we should be that an alumni was chosen for VP, etc., etc. but why in the world would we we want to admit that any of her "education" came from our institution? It's not exactly saying the best things about us/the college. (Thankfully, I was three years old when she was there and thus never had to encounter such a person. Shudder! ;) )

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:50:00 UTC | #257571

Pidge's Avatar Comment 23 by Pidge

Well, if she abolishes the research in the US, maybe the scientists can be accommodated here in Europe or elsewhere.

If ever I suffer from low blood pressure, I will watch this video!

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:52:00 UTC | #257574

Steve Zara's Avatar Comment 24 by Steve Zara

John McCain is not much better:

About Obama, he said:

“That’s nearly a million every day, every working day he’s been in Congress,” McCain said. “And when you look at some of the planetariums and other foolishness that he asked for, he shouldn’t be saying anything about Governor Palin.”


http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/15/john-mccain-literally-antiscience/

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:55:00 UTC | #257575

Algebratheist's Avatar Comment 25 by Algebratheist

I've never been this embarrassed to be an American.
:(

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:56:00 UTC | #257578

hawt4dawk's Avatar Comment 27 by hawt4dawk

Yes, 2, but... I just started watching a documentary called "Evolution: Darwin's Dangerous Idea" and one Victorian gentleman exclaimed to another, "You'd put muskets in the hands of the rabble!" and I immediately thought of Palin at her campaign rallies. It might sound mean to say, but it really isn't acceptable to allow people who believe that climate change doesn't matter because "Jesus is coming back" to take a seat at the adults' table.

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:56:00 UTC | #257580

Bonzai's Avatar Comment 26 by Bonzai

The Republican ticket appeals to stupid people. In their version of the Bible, Jesus said the dumb shalt inherit the world.

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:56:00 UTC | #257579

the great teapot's Avatar Comment 28 by the great teapot

Nice new haircut.

Go girl.

How about a rekindling of the star wars program for wolf extermination, that's got to be priority numero uno.

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:57:00 UTC | #257582

WilliamP's Avatar Comment 30 by WilliamP

Dr. Dawkins said:

Sarah Palin's Drosophilistinism is just one small manifestation of a larger and very worrying phenomenon, potentially fatal in a democracy: ignorant stupidity has become a proud badge of in-group solidarity.

I'd love to hear Palin's response to that comment, but I don't think she could get beyond the word "Drosophilistinism."

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:00:00 UTC | #257585

root2squared's Avatar Comment 29 by root2squared

Hawt

It is not mean at all, and if it is, let us be mean. There is too much damage being done by religion to consider feelings.

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:00:00 UTC | #257584