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Michael Austin's Avatar Comment 1 by Michael Austin

Is there a single nobel laureate who believes in Intelligent Design?

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 04:27:51 UTC | #639846

houseofcards's Avatar Comment 2 by houseofcards

wake up america. more atheist need to run for office here.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 04:30:05 UTC | #639847

Aflacduck's Avatar Comment 3 by Aflacduck

Comment 1 by Michael Austin :

Is there a single nobel laureate who believes in Intelligent Design?

I would be stupefied if there was.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 05:01:32 UTC | #639855

The Truth, the light's Avatar Comment 4 by The Truth, the light

Intelligent design is clearly bogus if Michele Bachmann doesn't accept evolution.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 05:17:39 UTC | #639859

rjohn19's Avatar Comment 5 by rjohn19

I'd love to see her win the nomination and get creamed in the general election- which she would. It would send a message to other GOP politicians that the far right religious agenda is poison at the ballot box. Perhaps if that message gets through, they'll revert to the time I found them tolerable as the "Silent Majority."

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 05:30:06 UTC | #639866

Quine's Avatar Comment 6 by Quine

Bachmann is part of a rather disturbing movement in the USA that glorifies ignorance, primarily in an attempt to defend religion from attack by reality.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 05:33:34 UTC | #639868

ZenDruid's Avatar Comment 7 by ZenDruid

Well, at least her BS is easier to pin down than the average Gish gallop, as she inverted only one fact. Is there extant a more complete version of that discussion?

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 05:34:54 UTC | #639869

Tryphon Tournesol's Avatar Comment 8 by Tryphon Tournesol

Is there any news yet, that Zack's list has reached mrs. Bachmann, and has she replied?

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 05:39:38 UTC | #639870

jon_the_d's Avatar Comment 9 by jon_the_d

Comment 6 by Quine :

Bachmann is part of a rather disturbing movement in the USA that glorifies ignorance, primarily in an attempt to defend religion from attack by reality.

perfectly put.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 05:46:43 UTC | #639872

huzonfurst's Avatar Comment 10 by huzonfurst

Bachmann's middle name is "Batshit," no doubt about it.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 06:51:13 UTC | #639891

drumdaddy's Avatar Comment 11 by drumdaddy

Bachman is just another pandering whore. Were she as stupid as her many statements then she would eat the microphone instead of speaking into it.

In America the Republican party (of Bush) loves to publicly bathe in religious claptrap in order to befriend the large segment of voters who have been systematically dumbed down.

OUT CAMPAIGN - Get on her case about this and don't let up until it becomes a topic that won't go away, or until she publicly renounces her idiotic stance. Other politicians also need to be hounded about their choice to dismiss evolution. Don't let up. Make them dig their hole deeper, or make them admit the truth. If they wish to campaign on this false ideology then campaign we will!

Make her wear it.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 07:09:50 UTC | #639897

Peter_E_Jones's Avatar Comment 12 by Peter_E_Jones

Comment 1 by Michael Austin

Is there a single nobel laureate who believes in Intelligent Design?

Dunno, but there are several that embrace(d) out-of-mainstream ideas:

Francis Crick (1962) suggestion about experiments on prisoners
James Watson (1962) on racial IQ
Brian Josephson (1973) on mental telepathy via QM
Kary Mullis (1993) on astrology and more . . .
Luc Montagnier (2008) on homeopathy, DNA electromag emissions

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 07:24:16 UTC | #639902

Jos Gibbons's Avatar Comment 13 by Jos Gibbons

Given that almost no Nobel laureates in science even believe in God, never mind intelligent design, and given that Nobel laureates who believe in God are much less literalistic than most theists, and given that the only people who believe in intelligent design but not God are the Raelians, I can't see how any Nobel laureates can believe in intelligent design. But when will these numsbkullsm realise that, no matter how popular a view is amongst scientists, it only has a place in science lessons if it was the scientific process (including peer review) which led them there. Most if not all scientists think it's wrong to murder adult humans; does that belong in a science class? In the 18th century more or less all scientists believed in the Christian God; did that belong in a science class? And by the way, IDists, peer review is a lot more than just your mate reading it and saying "That's all right" on the back cover of your vanity press publication.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 07:26:15 UTC | #639903

ColdThinker's Avatar Comment 14 by ColdThinker

Comment 5 by rjohn19 :

I'd love to see her win the nomination and get creamed in the general election- which she would. It would send a message to other GOP politicians that the far right religious agenda is poison at the ballot box. Perhaps if that message gets through, they'll revert to the time I found them tolerable as the "Silent Majority."

How do you justify this wishful thinking? After all, Ronald Reagan was a public supporter of ID and he won two elections by a landslide. Neither of he Bushes hardly endorsed evolution. According to statistics, it seems that most Americans favor some form of creationism.

Following the American politics as an outsider, it seems that not only religion, but also gender plays a huge part in it. Any female candidate is likely to get a significant sympathy vote from some democrats, too. So, count your republicans, add gender sympathies to religious ones, throw in the huge and ruthless Fox media machine, and I'm afraid such political nightmares as president Bachmann can easily become reality.

I wish I could share optimism, but when even CNN is willing to give credibility to people like Bachmann, I just can't.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 07:29:55 UTC | #639904

Drosera's Avatar Comment 15 by Drosera

More than 43% of Americans are Young Earth Creationists, and only 14% believe that evolution happened without interference by God (Gallup Poll 2007). That means that the vast majority of Americans are either ignorant or stupid.

Therefore, pandering to the stupid and ignorant is clearly a winning strategy for unscrupulous politicians. And to the many politicians who are themselves stupid or ignorant it comes naturally.

It was a milestone when the first black man became president. It will be a milestone when the first woman* becomes president. It will be a milestone when the first openly gay person becomes president. But the greatest milestone will be when the first outspoken atheist who endorses science without compromise becomes president.

*Let's just hope it will not be Palin or Bachmann!

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 07:57:40 UTC | #639907

Stafford Gordon's Avatar Comment 16 by Stafford Gordon

Whaaaaaat!

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 08:08:20 UTC | #639908

RW Millam's Avatar Comment 17 by RW Millam

Comment 2 by houseofcards

wake up america. more atheist need to run for office here.

We're trying, houseofcards -- we're trying.

http://www.facebook.com/National.Atheist.Party

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 08:10:55 UTC | #639910

carlmosconi's Avatar Comment 18 by carlmosconi

She is definitely depriving a village somewhere of an idiot!

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 09:04:53 UTC | #639922

MikeDeF's Avatar Comment 19 by MikeDeF

Fathers, forget about reminding the boyfriends to be back by 11pm, just ask them, their stance on evolution.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 09:18:09 UTC | #639924

Cartomancer's Avatar Comment 20 by Cartomancer

I'm not sure how Ms Bachmann is able to support intelligent design, given that she clearly has no idea what intelligence really looks like. She has, perhaps, heard it described once, but I'm fairly sure she's never actually seen any.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 09:25:36 UTC | #639926

Ignorant Amos's Avatar Comment 21 by Ignorant Amos

on the plus side....she's not a bad looker, what a waste of flesh, bone and the ability to thieve and process oxygen.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 09:39:43 UTC | #639927

Ivan The Not So Bad's Avatar Comment 22 by Ivan The Not So Bad

Bachmann Abducted by Tiny Lesbians

No, really, it's true.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 10:08:35 UTC | #639935

GBile's Avatar Comment 23 by GBile

Ms Bachmann is a rather unknown to me, so I am fine with her processing oxygen. A obvious question would be, how is she compared to Sarah (fruitfly) Palin ? Next year one of these 2 could be elected President of the USA !

On the Nobel Prize Winners front: there are Nobel prizes for Literature, Economic sciences and Peace! Those are fields where phantasy may play a large role, so I would not be surpised that one of those winners (Barack Obama ?) might support 'intelligent design'.

Try http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/lists/all/ and see for yourself.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 10:14:36 UTC | #639937

Duff's Avatar Comment 24 by Duff

There are probably several Nobelists who are IDers, but I don't think any of them were in Science. I wouldn't be surprised if several of the Peace Prize winners weren't religiots.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 10:30:31 UTC | #639943

Saganic Rites's Avatar Comment 25 by Saganic Rites

I don't know if this already exists out there, but I would like to suggest a 'Bachmann's Oxymoronic Law', which would run along the lines of 'The higher the personal belief in intelligent design, the lower the belief holder's personal intelligence'.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 10:32:43 UTC | #639945

AlexP's Avatar Comment 26 by AlexP

When your "faith" is strong enough to maintain belief in "intelligent" design in spite of all the facts and evidence, I guess then your faith is easily strong enough to believe whatever you want about nobel laureates, either.

Seriously - she didn't bother with facts before, why should she be starting now?

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 10:39:03 UTC | #639946

Anonymous's Avatar Comment 27 by Anonymous

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Sat, 18 Jun 2011 10:47:17 UTC | #639948

stylofone's Avatar Comment 28 by stylofone

I read that she's not a serious contender, she's just doing it for publicity so she can land some lucrative deals as a TV host on Fox or something similar. Like Trump doing it for the ratings.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 10:51:21 UTC | #639950

Austin K's Avatar Comment 29 by Austin K

To Quote Hitchens, "Name one!"

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:21:33 UTC | #639963

Sara12's Avatar Comment 30 by Sara12

This fact disturbs me more and more every day.

Comment 9 by jon_the_d :

Comment 6 by Quine :

Bachmann is part of a rather disturbing movement in the USA that glorifies ignorance, primarily in an attempt to defend religion from attack by reality.

perfectly put.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:31:21 UTC | #639967