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Teaching evolution in a climate of science denial, Part 2 - Comments

Premiseless's Avatar Comment 1 by Premiseless

Yes, I've been thinking along these lines for the past few hours - how the bankers (substitute religious leadership where you feel it resonates), on large fatted salaries at the top compromised everyone, down from them, bloodymindedly ensnared them into agreeing to foot the bill for generations to come, then with the spoils of this mass support, sidelined vast amounts of it to add to their already swollen salaries and pensions, having covered what would otherwise be outstandingly criminal networkings, by previously having writ large the dogma of their own bonuses. Everyone knows no bonus ought be due - or even their fattened salaries or fattened pensions protected. Everyone else has to put up and shut up when bad luck befalls their lives, oft for generations, but these guys, and theirs, get a lifelong cushion extraordinaire.

It's this putrid demand for mass subservience to elitist delusions, for the extraordinary benefits of the few, that needs extracting from the indoctrinations of society at large, globally. Imagine the wealth of human mind power, by the billion, which has been addicted to a wasteland of thinking when it could otherwise have been employed with the pressingly needed solutions to increasingly compromised plights of life on our planet. We all allow the powerful few to keep dogma and delusions as worth our subservience when in fact they simply enslave our minds and demand our respect for absolute effluent of human thought control.

Education should not only know better but needs to find ways of making it better and making sure it does so!

Wed, 07 Sep 2011 01:28:55 UTC | #868070

Neodarwinian's Avatar Comment 2 by Neodarwinian

The taxonomy of creationism! I wonder what they think of the " selection pressures " that brought then from William Paley all the way to The Discovery Institute. Actually, not much evolution there, but the same old thing repackaged over and over again.

That Richard Dawkins joke went rather flat as an accommodationist lead in showing the " extremes " that these people wish to avoid at all cost.

Wed, 07 Sep 2011 01:30:47 UTC | #868071

Vicar of Art on Earth's Avatar Comment 3 by Vicar of Art on Earth

I loved the video, but I think, I can't speak for Dr. Dawkins, but his message to people is it is a cold indifferent universe, but the critical thinker is trys to live without myth and to get on with life to it full potential because when you miss it, it is gone.

Wed, 07 Sep 2011 01:37:37 UTC | #868072

AfraidToDie's Avatar Comment 4 by AfraidToDie

"Richard Dawkins may have a polarizing effect"... yes he does.... to ignorance!

Wed, 07 Sep 2011 07:38:09 UTC | #868134

KRKBAB's Avatar Comment 5 by KRKBAB

It sounded like two the long winded comments were about accommodationism. I can say that most of the people I talk to who are atheists are accommodationists. I'm not.

Wed, 07 Sep 2011 13:32:36 UTC | #868225

KenChimp's Avatar Comment 6 by KenChimp

Comment 1 by Premiseless :

Yes, I've been thinking along these lines for the past few hours - how the bankers (substitute religious leadership where you feel it resonates), on large fatted salaries at the top compromised everyone, down from them, bloodymindedly ensnared them into agreeing to foot the bill for generations to come, then with the spoils of this mass support, sidelined vast amounts of it to add to their already swollen salaries and pensions, having covered what would otherwise be outstandingly criminal networkings, by previously having writ large the dogma of their own bonuses. Everyone knows no bonus ought be due - or even their fattened salaries or fattened pensions protected. Everyone else has to put up and shut up when bad luck befalls their lives, oft for generations, but these guys, and theirs, get a lifelong cushion extraordinaire.

It's this putrid demand for mass subservience to elitist delusions, for the extraordinary benefits of the few, that needs extracting from the indoctrinations of society at large, globally. Imagine the wealth of human mind power, by the billion, which has been addicted to a wasteland of thinking when it could otherwise have been employed with the pressingly needed solutions to increasingly compromised plights of life on our planet. We all allow the powerful few to keep dogma and delusions as worth our subservience when in fact they simply enslave our minds and demand our respect for absolute effluent of human thought control.

Education should not only know better but needs to find ways of making it better and making sure it does so!

Those who engage in fraud, particularly to the damaging extent that the Banksters and the God Mafia engage in it should be prosecuted, have their assets frozen, and if found guilty of the fraudulent dealings they engage in, have their assets forfeited to help those they plundered recover from the theft.

Wed, 07 Sep 2011 15:04:22 UTC | #868269

KenChimp's Avatar Comment 7 by KenChimp

Comment 5 by KRKBAB :

It sounded like two the long winded comments were about accommodationism. I can say that most of the people I talk to who are atheists are accommodationists. I'm not.

People should have the right to believe whatever personal stupidity they want to believe. They should have no right, or legalized power, to make others believe in that stupidity, or live as if they did.

The core of problem I have with organized religion is that these institutions have legal and social license to defraud the public, and to have their activities subsidized by tax exemption.

Wed, 07 Sep 2011 15:08:49 UTC | #868274

Polesch's Avatar Comment 8 by Polesch

I'm sorry, but I don't think this 'continuum' is valid. It actually is a yes or no question on this matter, either you reject science or you don't. And if you accept Jesus, you automatically do reject science. Either you accept Jesus or you don't! If you accept Jesus, you basically have to accept the Bible as well! This idiotic cherry-picking of the Bible is so dishonest, accept it or reject it, be honest with yourself!

Science doesn't allow magic and godly interventions, science is based on the idea that the universe is governed by knowable laws, and that every experiment under the same conditions will give the same answer! This is also in quantum mechanics, though they are statistical. If you have a calculation based on the standard model of particle physics, that it's a 70% chance of finding an electron at position x, there always will be a 70% chance! Statistical laws are just as valid as any other law.

People who place themselves somewhere on this continuum is dishonest, hypocritical and willingly ignorant! Dawkins is correct here.

Thu, 08 Sep 2011 20:23:45 UTC | #868720